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Post by PhyrraM »

I'll start with the brakes. First you have to collect everything, right? Stock '06 WRX calipers, Kartboy rear brackets, ATI fluid, SS WRX lines, and Hawk pads. Stock resurfaced '06 WRX rotors not shown.
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Stock SS rear brakes and the new rotors compared. Nice increase in diameter, which equates to more 'leverage' for the calipers.
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New rear rotor against the stock SS dust shield. Notice in the above pic how the rotor 'sits inside' the dust shield?
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The dust shield is only tacked to the backing plate with very weak tackwelds. I popped it off easily with a screwdriver. I then used a grinder with a sanding disc to knock down the leftover tackwelds.
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Note that the grinding is completley optional. If you don't have the proper tools, you can do wih just popping off the dust shield with a screwdriver.

Now that the rotors fit, we need to get the caliper to fit. The SS (and any non-2 pot or Brembo Subaru) needs an adapter to fit the 2 pot rear calipers. My problem was that the brackets had a bit of interference with the backing plate. This is a known issue with the Kartboy brackets and it may or may-not happen on any given car. I'm guessing that Subaru's production tolerances varied alot on the rear hubs/backing plates.

The problem.
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The solution. Looks like if your not luckier than me, a grinder is your only friend.
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There is still plenty of thickness after grinding. I would guess that any strength I removed by grinding is more than made up for by the addition of the very rigid bracket when the two are finally bolted together.
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Now it's just a simple matter of bolting the new caliper to the bracket.
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Fronts went so fast I forgot to take pics, but suffice it to say that it's as simple as any other brake job. Did take a pic with the old vs. new rotor.
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Brake feel is good. Ultimate braking power is about the same, as it's the same tires on the road. Pedal is a bit softer than expected, about the same as stock. I was hoping for a firmer pedal. Modulation (controlability) is much better however. I'll be looking into a larger master cylinder and the single stage booster soon. Have not done any emergency stops or hard driving (to test thermal capacity) yet.

Of course I had to switch the wheels to something that would clear these new binders.
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Post by Adam West »

Cool! I posted some q's on your camping thread.

Another that comes to mind is about running without a backing plate. Without getting into a big discussion what's the word on doing that? I'd heard that it's possible to pick up rocks n'stuff that don't really do much but can cause some noise issues...Hope I'm not opening up a can of worms here with the engineering crowd...

Nice work! Great pics! Thanks for posting!!!

Cheers,
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Post by beatersubi »

PhyrraM wrote:Pedal is a bit softer than expected
There're a lot more caliper pistons to fill w/ the same master cylinder now. Modulation should indeed be better, though.
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Is there a Subaru single piston booster that's not a complete reengineer to swap in. I think I researched once and came to the conclusion it was a major PITA for not much bang. Am I remembering that right? ...


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Post by PhyrraM »

Adam West wrote:.........running without a backing plate. Without getting into a big discussion what's the word on doing that? I'd heard that it's possible to pick up rocks n'stuff that don't really do much but can cause some noise issues.....
Not sure, I'll have to let everyone know how it goes.

Think this looks like a problem? Looks like almost anything that gets up there should just fall out. Maybe something might land directly on top of the caliper?
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Adam West wrote:Is there a Subaru single piston booster that's not a complete reengineer to swap in. I think I researched once and came to the conclusion it was a major PITA for not much bang. Am I remembering that right? ...
I seem to remember mention of an Impreza booster somewhere. I wanna say Josh talked about it, but not sure. You can be sure I'll post anything I uncover.
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Post by PhyrraM »

A bit late, but here is a short write up on the exhaust install.

From left to right,
WRX 3inch bellmouth downpipe (Helix?), WRX upper-downpipe catless replacement, Stock WRX downpipe, Stock Legacy SS downpipe. I, of course, used the 3" WRX length downpipe.
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Ready to install. WRX length. In fact it would drop right into a WRX as it sits in this pic.
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The downpipe was a straight bolt in replacement. No mods needed to install in the SS. I then bolted the resonator section to the downpipe to drive to the muffler shop. I had to cut the hanger off the resonator because it was pushing up into the floorboard. The shop relocated the resonator hanger to use the factory mount.
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The resonator was too close to the driveshaft as-is so the muffler shop put a slight bend in the pipe just after the downpipe.
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End result is acceptable safe distance from the driveshaft and good ground clearance.
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The rest of it was a straight shot back. You can see where the extension was added right at the differential.
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The muffler itself is a tight squeeze, but it doesn't hit or bang that I have seen or heard yet.
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Youtube links. I don't claim to be a film editor. :wink:
First two are in-car, windows open, camera at passenger headrest. Last one is outside the car with a pair of recruted cameramen. (Yes, they were safe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxHl6TWPGuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRL8lSUEZOI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpWLh0TVzac
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Post by PhyrraM »

Not to go back-to-back without at least a few comments, but....well.....you know. :smt020 :smt006

Smaller diameter and much better condition tham my stocker.

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Temporarily lost my cruise-control. But I've got a plan.
http://www.rs25.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52693
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Post by dropdfocus »

Lookin' hot & sounds great!!! Must be nice to have a 5sp in your SS. :(
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Post by Adam West »

I have same wheel and love it! Looking forward to seeing how you add back cruise control. Thanks for the link to the mod thread...Rock on!
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Post by dropdfocus »

If you visit the link to the RS25 site, they show how to reinstall the cruise control switch.
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Post by Adam West »

Yes, just checking that out...

they also show that contact pin that we need to ad to our clockspring for the horn if we don't have a complete JDM swap clockspring. I guess they were on some earlier USDM cars. I was lucky that my mechanic had one laying around to sell me...
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Post by BAC5.2 »

What is Spencer's Transmission Cocktail...
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Likely the same as the "Scotty Cocktail" but with a lime twist. :mrgreen:
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Post by PhyrraM »

Yes, basically trying to obtain Scotties properties with local ingredients.

Spencer (smh0101) had just done his trans at that time and I used a cocktail close to his. Hence "Spencer's Cocktail".

But lately I've been reading some not so good things about Scotties, so next change I'm thinking of going with something more traditional.


As a side note, while driving around today it dawned on me that the corners of the column chroud that were exposed by the new steering wheel would make great mini-displays for relavent info.

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Post by BAC5.2 »

Those would all be good things to have in the shroud. Make sure you use connectors on all wiring though, so when you remove the shroud it is easy to get to. Label them, since they will likely all look the same.


What is in Spencers Cocktail though? There is a LOT of dangerous stuff out there that will DESTROY a transmission. If you tell me what's in it, I can tell you its safety.
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Check this out for possible interest:
(I'll have one installed in my car with the TXS Dtec fuel controller)
TurboXS KnockLite
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Post by TrueBlue »

Great thread. Jealous of the condition of your car, and I love the new steering wheel. Keep it up. :)
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Was the steering wheel a direct bolt on? Looking at picking one up if I don't steel back the WRX MOMO wheel from my wife's car.
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Not a 100% bolt on. The horn contacts are different, but not too hard to figure out. If your car is a non-cruise control car, I'm guessing that it would be a straight bolt up.

I can do a write-up if there is demand.
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That's pretty much all I needed to know. I've seen the cruise control adaptation on the RS25 site, so that's not a big deal really. Plus I have a strong background in 12v electronics, so the horn could be taken care of.

Thanks!
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I've been doing alot of 'back and forth' trying to decide what heads to use on a pending engine build. I currently have, in hand, Legacy EJ20G heads, USDM '98 2.5RS EJ25D heads, and (of course) a few sets of EJ22T SOHC heads.

The EJ20G heads have a comparatively large chamber. This would put the compression lower than I am targeting for this build. They are also still factory bolted to what appears to be a very well taken care of, closed deck EJ20G. I kind of hate to seperate them at this point.

The EJ25D heads are not set up for a turbo. It is just a matter of drilling out and tapping exsisting bosses. I would assume that the OEM Impreza 2.5RS cams are not as agressive as JDM turbo cams. (but admittedly not sure).

It's well known here that EJ22T heads can do the job, but need cams and porting. I currently don't know anybody local that I would trust to do the job, but I'm sure a referal is just a post away.

You know what they say about the answer presenting itself? Does Ebay count?

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$338. Local so no shipping charges. It's a '93 WRX wagon with the TD04 turbo and an automatic transmission. Factory rated @ ~220hp. Came with engine, transmission, intercooler, bulkhead harness w/ECU, engine harness w/ airbox and AFM, front half-shafts, driveshaft, downpipe, fuelpump and sender.

I only really need the heads, so I'm hoping to recoup my costs by selling the rest.

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If you do decide to seperate the motor & part it out, I'm very interested in the complete intake manifold (w/ IAC, all possible hoses, throttle body, etc.). PLEASE let me know if you do decide to do such. Thanks!
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Post by beatersubi »

Or you can get a set of Delta cams for the 25D heads for ~$90ea.
Or just turn up the boost a little more.
Just saying...
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Its up to $90 now per cam? Last I checked it was $75 for a reground cam from Delta. Dang... :(
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