Cranks but wont start. Coilpack?

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:49 am

My suspision is the coil pack. I just need this confirmed before I try and find a Diamond coil pack to replace it.

The engine cranks and cranks, but never stars. Every now and then for the last few weeks I would get a little "sputter" like the car died but then kept running. Or sometimes I would start it up, and then it would run for a second or so and then shut off. I could always get it to start again though.

Coilpack? Or something else...? If it is the coilpack, maybe somone could help me find a Diamond to replace it.

Thanks!

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:59 pm

Can you check whether or not it's sparking?

One at a time, remove each plug wire and put an old spark plug in it, lying on some metal of the engine block or intake manifold (someplace a spark won't cause problems). As you crank it, you should see sparks across the plug gap.

Does your car never start? Or does it just sometimes go into this state where it won't start?

Do you know when your fuel filter was last changed?

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:26 pm

Sounds more like a fueling problem to me. Maybe the fuel pump? Or maybe the fuel filter is really old and clogged up?

Post by **Legacy777** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:36 pm

You should check the coil pack
http://main.experiencetherave.com:8080/ ... cktest.jpg

also, try what vrg3 mentioned.

if you have spark, and the tests from the fsm are ok, it's probably not the coil pack.

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:43 pm

vrg3 wrote: Does your car never start? Or does it just sometimes go into this state where it won't start?

Do you know when your fuel filter was last changed?

This is the first time this has happened. The car has always started no problem. I dont know for sure when the fuel filter was last replaced, but I do know that the previous owner took really good care of the car, doing all scheduled maintanence. So I assume the fuel filter has been replaced at some point. I dont think it's the fuel filter though, given that the car has always started up fine.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:58 pm

So the car was working fine for a long time, and then one day it just stopped?

Or now does it sometimes work and sometimes not?

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:04 pm

vrg3 wrote:So the car was working fine for a long time, and then one day it just stopped?

Yes, It was running great and now does not start at all.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:04 pm

Soo... what were the results of the test for sparking?

Also, if a friend cranks and you listen through a stethoscope or through the handle of a long screwdriver, can you hear the injectors clicking open and shut?

And when you first turn the ignition on, can you hear the fuel pump prime at all?

omegax · Post by **omegax** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:15 am

well if it turns out to be the coil pack i got one

diamond type

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:06 am

Hey guys. Since I couldnt find a working voltometer, I decided to go out on a limb and just buy a new coilpack. So, now I have a brand spankin' new Diamond coil pack (got it for $70 with friend's discount).

Well, turns out it wasn't the problem. Car still wont start. Cranks, but doesnt start.

On goes the investigation...

Ignitor? Fuel pump? Is there a fuel pump relay (like my honda has) that can go bad?

DAMMIT!!!

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:21 am

I'd probably check for spark at the plugs (spark it off the block or something if you have to), then if that showed spark is present I'd start troubleshooting the fuel system. It still sounds like a fueling problem to me.

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:15 am

Ok I CAN hear the fuel pump prime up. So it's not that...

I'm going to do the spark test ASAP and I'll post the results.

Been super busy lately..... and it sucks. No time.

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:20 am

Well guys.......... she runs!!!!

LegacyPunk · Post by **LegacyPunk** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:50 am

Did you find the culprit?

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:48 pm

I guess it was the coilpack. I'm not sure why it didn't start after I replaced it though. I went through and made sure all my connections in the engine bay were solid, made sure all the fuses were solid...kind of just checked everything over. Then I did a spark test, and not only did it spark but she started right up on 3 cylinders. Oh well, I'm happy.

-Seth

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:55 pm

If you tried starting it shortly before changing the coil pack, the engine may have been flooded which could have kept it from starting up right away.

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:52 am

Ahh, sweet. Glad to hear shes runnin' again.

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:51 am

Thanks guys

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:41 am

Hmmmmmmm

Well I was driving the car last night and she died on me. Just stalled. Now she wont start again......

GRRRRRRRRRRR

TheShocker · Post by **TheShocker** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:48 pm

anyone?

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:45 pm

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... =back+seat

I know you heard the pump prime in one of your posts, but have you checked this? I was having a similar problem, although I don't think I heard the pump prime when it wasn't running. It would cut out while driving, though. It wouldnt hurt to look at those connectors, they are easy to get to.

When mine died it was a matter of someone bouncing on the back seat to get it running again, it was very touchy.

-Ryan

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Cranks but wont start. Coilpack?

Cranks but wont start. Coilpack?