94 legacy Turbo, Canada

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:25 am

ok first off that starter sounds totally messed. It is like the motor is getting stuck. 2nd of all did you check the timing belt. Try pulling the covers? make sure the belt is lined up properly. I am sure that is the only problem.

Bane · Post by **Bane** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:49 am

hmm, having a new starter on hand couldn't hurt, but when mine died, it sounded a hell of a lot worse.

don't know if anyone mentioned it or not, or if you've already figured it out:

left to right, front to back
1,2 front cylinder numbers
3,4 back cylinder numbers

firing order is 1,3,2,4

the book has a large section on the timing belt procedures and lining them up properly.

what is your spark plug gap set to? did you switch to new ones? what brand are you using?
i know in the past i put stock NGK plugs in, with the .44 gap and it was too high. i remember having to adjust to a smaller gap... .3 or so.

Also the haynes manual i'm referring to is 89100 in case you need to pick one up for ideas.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:38 pm

SO i should gap at .41 and see what happens?

I really appreciate all this help, just got no time right now!

ALthough i believe its not the timing, its possible im using the wrong cam sensor, therefore the firing sequence is diffrent, ill gap to .41 today and try some starter fluid!

Bane · Post by **Bane** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:14 pm

err, no, i gapped mine at .030 instead of .044

also, i change them every 2 oil changes, just to be sure since i don't want misfires again, basic NGK coppers, not iridium or any other fancy ones. Haven't had a problem since.

here's the thread i started on the local board in Toronto

http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/foru ... spark+plug

basic gist of it was misfires at high boost...
problem went away after new plugs and gap decrease.

good luck.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:51 pm

Thanks for the info, i havent got my refund on the ECU yet, looks like the guy is going just pay for a new Data board so i can use it.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:59 pm

Im looking at getting a PP6 for my car, Cost effective and the guy i bought the engine off of has a map already made so i can work from that, Is there a good supply of wiring diagrams?

What are the pros and cons of the Perfect Power SMT6 on my Car?

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:12 pm

Please search in the electrical forum about the perfect power. There is at least one massive thread, and probably a few more. The big thread I believe has links to the manuals.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:26 pm

Legacy777 wrote:Please search in the electrical forum about the perfect power. There is at least one massive thread, and probably a few more. The big thread I believe has links to the manuals.

Thanks

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:27 pm

Alright now some questions build related.

Which line is the return and which line is the EVAP and which line is the feed for fuel?, I believe i have it correct im just double checking

Also what year year of walbro fits our cars? Ive got an 05-07STI pump in my car right now, So should i get any year STI pump?

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:56 pm

Yes. Just ask for a Walbro 225LPH for an STi.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:02 pm

Any year STI?

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:35 am

I believe so. I just told the Subaru dealer that I had a 91 Legacy SS and I needed a new fuel pump and that I wanted the Walbro 255LPH. He said, "Okay, the one for the STi will work."

That's all I know lol.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:09 am

haha, aight

Do you know somewhere in Canada good to get it?

Im assuming the Subaru dealership then?

But wont it be expensive there?

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:10 am

Just as expensive as it would be anywhere else. I think it came out to $109 with tax.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:14 am

Sounds good, thanks

Looks like ill be getting a cam sensor and a pump probally come to like 300$ with tax, ughh

ericem · Post by **ericem** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:39 am

Remember though the dealers here rape you on prices. Prob going to have to order online.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:52 am

189$ for Cam gear sensor, ill make shure they have it for me

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:19 pm

Just talked to Subaru, Apparently the Cam gear sensor dosent come with wire and you just plug your old wire in, waiting for a call back from tunerworks for that walbro fuel pump, ill be picking up these parts on thursday or friday.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:53 pm

Got a call back from tunerworks in Calgary

looks like the walbro 255LPH pump is going to run me around 160$ Canadian, that seems a little expensive, right?

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:57 pm

Yeah. Mine was $109 USD.

Try looking online for one. That will probably be much cheaper.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:03 pm

I wish i had the time, But i need to get the car going, so i guess ill support local and pay the little extra, thanks

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:08 am

Just bought a TurboXS racepipe, Exhaust is coming together, WOOT!

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:59 am

Ill be picking up the sensors and fuel pump tommorow, Everyone pray that it starts, please oh god help me in this time of need!

Gord. · Post by **Gord.** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:45 am

Good Luck, it could easily be the fuel pump. I want to see it running by thanksgiving.

94SS_Canada · Post by **94SS_Canada** » Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:35 am

So you take a one step forward and a 2 steps back.

Mounted Boost Gauge, wired ground and wired power to what i thought was the "lighter ring light" apparently not as the light still works, The light always stays on with with the key in and it will go off with the key set to off. Put interior back together and such.

Installed cam gear sensor, wired it in according to wire color, done there.

Installed the walbro 255LPH Fuel pump, done there.

Turn key to on, let the turbo prime the fuel pump go too.

It makes one loud poof, like it turned on and then, Nothing.

Check the coil, there is NO SPARK anymore! I check the ground, it was a little bad so i redid it, STILL no SPARK!

The Car does not attempt to fire at all anymore.

When cranking it, it will crank for a few seconds and then crank very slowly once and then crank normally again and nothing, I have no idea why i have no SPark anymore, Could the fact that i possibly wired the CAm gear sensor wrong effect that?

Im losing alot of ambition and hope for this project, i am tired, broke and behind in school, i have to get this thing going, if not, I dont know what to do.

Keep me motivated guys, please.

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