Mister Anderson's 93 TW track car project

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Mister Anderson's 93 TW track car project

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The time has come to start the build thread that I had been planing for a while.


Budget: What's a budget?

UPDATE 01/03/2014

Here is the new build list:

ENGINE
-2011 EJ257 crank
-BC sportsmans rods
-Wiseco pistons
-ACL main/rod bearings
-ARP head studs
-Subaru master overhaul gasket set
-2011 STI oil pump
-2007 STI oil pan
-Tomei timing belt guide
-Perrin LW crank pulley
-Killer B Motorsport Oil Baffle
-Killer B Motorsport Oil Pickup
-Gates racing timing belt kit
-Subaru OEM Super Three Bond
-Machine work
-HalTech E8 standalone

HEADS
I decided to get a set of 98 EJ25D heads that have the clover shaped chambers. I decided against using the gen 1 EJ20G heads since there is no camshaft options available besides having them reground at Delta.

-Supertech SS intake valves
-Supertech inconel exhaust valves
-Supertech dual valve spring kit w/titanium retainers
-Supertech valve guides
-Supertech valve stem seals
-Keldford 278 version 4 camshafts. These have been special ordered, and won't arrive for 4-7 weeks.
-Intake manifold; Version 1/2 20G

TRANSMISSION

-Version 4 STi-RA 5 speed w/DCCD and a standalone controller
-ACT ProLite Flywheel
-ACT HD clutch
-GoodRidge stainless clutch line
-Kartboy short throw shifter
-Kartboy shifter bushings
-Kartboy aluminum shift knob

EXHAUST

-Tomei equal length exhaust manifold w/up pipe
-Invidia V2 downpipe bellmouth
-3 inch stainless Tomioka Racing w/resonator

TURBO/FUEL

-Blouch 18G
-Injector Dynamics fuel injectors 1000cc
-Walbro fuel pump $100
-AEM Tru-Boost gauge $250
-Subaru AWIC


NEED TO GET

-AFR gauge, EX temp gauge, and whatever else that will come up

UPDATE 01/10/2014

I got around to snapping a few pics of some of the stuff. I have it spread out between two houses so this isn't everything.

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I Started the port work on the new heads. This is no where near finished. I had spent a lot of time porting the Liberty EJ20G heads so I'm a little burned out on port work lol.

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I'm going to try to get this done by the end of the weekend so I can take them to the machine shop the following week. Hopefully the Kelford camshafts won't take a month to show up.

UPDATE 01/26/2014

I am finally heading to the machine shop tomorrow!

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I picked up a set of 17in BBS wheels

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I drove to Seattle yesterday and came home with a V.4 STI-RA 5 speed w/ R180 mechanical LSD rear end. It has the DCCD center differential. I plan on running a standalone controller for it.

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Also picked up a STI pedal assm

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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS

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Very nice! Looks just like mine used to, only yours iis in better shape.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS

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wow nice start! Good move on the engine management, all the best parts in the world are useless without it! You are probably going to want to get and clutch with more holding power after the 16g goes on. actually, a stronger trans might be a good idea too.... Once you build the motor and put those heads on, you should be able to make ~300whp
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS

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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS

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Outta curiosity, what are you gonna do with the stock wing?
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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Big update at the top of the page 01/03/2014
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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Very VERY nice car you do have there sir!

I much like!!

Keep it up!!
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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are you sure there are no camshaft options for the 20g? i found quite a bit, being that they are from a wrx...
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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ride_child wrote:are you sure there are no camshaft options for the 20g? i found quite a bit, being that they are from a wrx...
The WRX 20G cams will fit into the Legacy 20G heads, but the WRX cams have a different lobe profile for the buckets vs the legacy's stub rocker. There are a few more issues with the Legacy 20G heads. No one makes off the shelf valves/springs. They are totally different dimensions than any other Subaru valve. Also, the combustion chambers are 57cc and this can lead to compression issues. I had another set of Wiseco pistons machined down to fix this issue (75mm pistons machined down to use on a 79mm crank). The crowns are on the bottom tolerance range and was afraid of melting one with high power levels.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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i didnt realize you were talkin about the liberty 20g. i was referring to the wrx 20g.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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ride_child wrote:i didnt realize you were talkin about the liberty 20g. i was referring to the wrx 20g.
Oh okay! I was wondering if that's what you were talking about.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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Update at the top!
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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Where in Washington are you? That first pic looks like the park and ride in Ridgefield...
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (big update 1/3/2014)

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You've got some sweet parts going into this build, I'm jealous. Those of the photos of all the parts laid out on the table, that's the stuff dreams are made of. Looking forward to seeing more of your progress on this build.
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smh0101 wrote:Where in Washington are you? That first pic looks like the park and ride in Ridgefield...
I believe that was at the park and ride! I'm in Vancouver.
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Dominator wrote:You've got some sweet parts going into this build, I'm jealous. Those of the photos of all the parts laid out on the table, that's the stuff dreams are made of. Looking forward to seeing more of your progress on this build.
Thanks man!
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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How's the build going? This looks strangely similar to the build in my 91. Camshafts, ecu, 5spd, 2.2 are the main differences. I'm only running 16psi and still hitting 275whp. So I expect you to hit some sweet power.

Really want to see how you like the ecu though as I want to convert to a standalone down the line.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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update

Been a long time since I have done an update on this project. Well I am returning the sedan back to stock since I have bought a 1993 turbo wagon. I got a call from the previous owner asking if I was interested. I paid a grand for the car, and has around 265k miles on it. The only catch was the car didn't have reverse.


The day I bought it:

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The engine that I was building for the sedan went into the wagon;

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Here are some pictures of the engine, transmission, and the rear-end.

I plan on running the turbo inlet under the intake after I break the engine in.

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Checking the piston to valve clearance.

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Kelford cams.

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Stock EJ25D cams vs Kelford 272.

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I had to do some machining so the new cams would clear the inside of the heads.

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The valve seat pressure was around 100 pounds so I ended up shaving a few millimeters off the spring seat washers to lower it.

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I bought a special spring compressor for Subaru DOHC heads.

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I went ahead and lapped each valve to it's corresponding location, even though the machine shop did a valve job.

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I tore the RA transmission down for inspection, and resealing.

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The R180 had some pitting on the outer races of carrier bearings, so I ended up replacing all the bearings. I used all Subaru OEM bearings.

getting ready to push the pinion shaft races out of the housing.

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R160 vs. the R180.

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I bought a set of SuberDave's custom CV races. I also bought brand new STi inner CV joints from the dealer.

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New exhaust vs stock legacy.

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Intercooler

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Picked up some 114.7x8.5 STi rims. I bought Project Kics wheel adapters.

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Installed the DCCD switch in the dash.

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The controller is mounted under the center console. I built a plug and play harness with the STi-RA body harness I have.

Anyway, that's where I am at now.
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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Holy shit you're a Mosnter, Mister! Engine work is a beautiful thing, one day I'd like to get in there build one. Can't wait to hear it with the cams and exhaust.
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All I have to say is Goddamn!!!! Nice work!
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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Excellent update!!!

It's looking awesome!
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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Thanks everyone for the input!!

I have few videos of the car now that it is running. First start up was flawless, no problems. The car still has the stock VF11 turbo running at waste gate pressure.

Vid for the idle with the huge cams:


Vacuum readings at idle:


Startup with some throttle:


4th to 5th gear pull, My speedo is not hooked up yet:
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Re: Mister Anderson's 91 Legacy SS (UPDATE STI-RA 5 speed)

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Get that speedo hooked up and you will have a much happier car.
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Still drives the same with the speedo hooked up. I still need to get the HalTech in, and tuned. hopefully the tune will help with that idle lol. I might remove the LW crank pulley, and re-install the stock one. The engine is super easy to kill with that LW pulley, and the 9 pound flywheel. This car is a play car, so I might leave it alone. Unfortunately, I won't be working on this project again until the end of March.

As for my 91 SS that's going to be put back together this coming summer. I have the interior out, and the engine/trans out. It will remain as a stock daily driver.
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Loved the video with the cams
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