Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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You should look into a killer b oil pickup and ej257 oil pan for attacking the oil starvation thing from a different angle.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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mike-tracy wrote:You should look into a killer b oil pickup and ej257 oil pan for attacking the oil starvation thing from a different angle.
That oil pan clears the headers OK?
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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That oil pan is designed to clear twinscroll headers so it fits more aftermarket headers than the std one. Killer b also makes a pickup that fits an ej205 pan which is very similar to ours.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Speaking of headers, a friend of mine just gave me these the other day
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Im not sure I will like them but im going to give it a shot. I'm curious as to what these came off of?
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Looks like JDM n/a ones
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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dankberries wrote:OK . I did more research today, sounds like I should stick with a ej22t 10mm.
If their is a demand for more pressure I could add an extra shim to the pump.
Is it true the 22t pump already has two shims ?
Sti 10mm pump has one shim?
My ej22t oil pump only had one shim.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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I think the killer b oil pan & pick up are probably helpful items for oil starvation under certain circumstances, but I don't necessarily think those would have helped in this situation. the cause for oil starvation was something different than oil pick up problem IMO. Throwing money and parts and it doesn't necessarily fix the actual problem. You need to make sure you identify the root cause of the problem. Oil starvation may have been a symptom, but what was the cause of the oil starvation....too much bypass by the larger pump, oil sloshing around in the sump, etc. That's what you need to try and determine.

Regarding Subaru's oil clearances, they are what they are and are based on the recommended oil they suggest using. If you're going to be using higher viscosity oil, you could probably get by with slightly increased oil clearances.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Well its back to more down time. Machine shop work is 3weeks out.
I still haven't been able to conclude the root cause of my problems. Right now I feel the only thing I can do is attack this from all points, different oil pump, oil pan, oil pick up tube, bearing clearances, and a new machine shop.
This really sucks, I wish I could diagnose this better :-( but how can I trully know with this many variables. I will hope for the best, make myself a test dummie, and find the right way somehow.
"At least I'm like NASCAR status at pulling the engine so its not too bad on the labor part, its just the cost that really hurts".
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Yeah I can certainly understand your situation, and yeah, trying to eliminate all your variables is probably the best option.

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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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That exhaust manifold is from a 1996-97 version 3 ej20k sti.
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Not sure how I keep missing these epic builds. Really loved what you did. Always a fan of the RS body. Hopefully you get shit fixed though.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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91legacyawdturbo wrote:That exhaust manifold is from a 1996-97 version 3 ej20k sti.
I was thinking this.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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The ver 3-4 EJ20k's should be the same, right? I have ver 4 STI heads, and the ex manifold that came with it was all but the same as the ej20g ones, ie. unequal length.

Google is failing me at the moment, but certain year JDM n/a engines had turbo style equal length manifolds, just like the above picture.
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So the new machine shop brought it to my attention that almost all the Subaru blocks they have put together with ARP case bolts require alighn honing.
I guess their can be alignment issues when using ARP's, which leads to oil starvation.

I did a quick Google search and their is other people talking of this issue.
More info to come soon hopefully.

Also the machine shop said "I'm really sorry you went through Blue Oval, we have been fixing a bunch of their stuff".
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Machine shop verdict - failure caused by other shop not doing a good job. The halves in fact need to be alighn honed.

And I need a new crank and a rod. Where does a guy buy a single rod?!
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Stock rod or another kind?
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Legacy777 wrote:Stock rod or another kind?
Eagle H-beam rod.
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You could try contacting Eagle directly to see if they'd sell you just one rod.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Impreza round 2, fight!
Now w/ more color!

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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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New oil pan, baffle, and pick up tube
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Got everything buttoned up and went for start up and I'm getting no starter or fuel pump priming. My starter makes a click but that's it. Check all my grounds and they seem OK. Ecu has power.. battery is good.
I then decided to pull the starter from the tranny and see if it would turn them in case it was binding with the flywheel or something but the starter just makes a single click noise with no movement.
The fact that I'm not hearing priming makes me think an electrical problem. I didn't have enough time to check out everything and will have to wait tell later today to look at it again. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Tested the starter and its bad. Tested voltage to the fuel pump and its got power. Pulled the fuel pump and tested it, tested OK . When I removed the fuel lines they where pressurized, so maybe the pump was working and I couldn't hear it.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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Looks Awesome :!: My friends thought I was Anal for painting the intake manifold and VC's lol :shock:

Sorry to hear about the issues, that's pretty much the story all the time with mine :roll:

Glad to see the problem solved and would love to see some shots of it in the car or even a video ! I really wanna buy a GoPro as soon as I'm finished !
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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The ECU monitors the starter cranking signal. If it doesn't get a signal, the fuel pump won't run. I think with a new starter things should be ok.
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Re: Dankberries 1993 Impreza ej23t/25d build

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CFK wrote:would love to see some shots of it in the car or even a video ! I really wanna buy a GoPro as soon as I'm finished !
More pics and video comming soon ! I'm excited to see what it will sound like with equal length headers!
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