How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Apologies if that was a mis-post. Ill be sure to put things in there appropriate places next time. Any how thanks for the input ill start a new thread later...
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Will this mod work on stock 98 ej25d railsy
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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__TT__ wrote:Will this mod work on stock 98 ej25d railsy
Nope...but '04-07 STi 550's will.

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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Just a little info that ill have a write up onhow toput these in N/A rails soon
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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I can't vouch for this Vendor (yet), but for those wanting the necessary parts to go w/the injectors check THIS SITE.

EDIT: I will vouch that I got the same service as Witchhunter for $64 for all 4.

The kit includes pintle caps and orings as well as a set of installation instructions.

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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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If you are buying used injectors, I would highly recommend sending them off to witchhunter. 100 for all new seals/ o-rings/pentils, cleaned and flow tested with printed results.
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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^Agreed or send them to the Mr. Injector - $64 for all 4 same service.
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Yes, we include the parts in our service. A set of four is $64.00 plus $5.00 return shipping. If you want use the service just send them in with this form
http://www.mrinjector.us/uploads/3/2/6/ ... ------Form


Sorry to say I don't have any of those grey top side feed injectors. Bill

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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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I've never heard of them. I've only used which hunter and had a great experience, but next time, Ill try out your guy Todd. Cheaper, closer, and I like to support the "little guys"
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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to remove my injecters its a star screw not an 8mm socket bolt and thats on all of my cars the 92na 92ss and 93ss
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Bringing this thread back from the dead. This is such a good resource for the injector swap and the original images are gone so I am going to post up some new images for reference. Just did this on my '91 SS. Straight drop into the stock rails.

The first image shows the rings/spacers in order from top to bottom as they would go onto the injector. The parts numbers are listed on the bags and the o-rings on top of the package for visual reference.

The second image shows the rings/spacers on the injector.

The third picture shows the part number for the seal that goes on the bottom of the rail if you opt to pull the whole rail for the swap. I just pulled the stock injectors with the rail still mounted and did not need this seal. Bought one for reference here.

Hope this is helpful!

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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Well done....you OK if I 'borrow' this and post on NASIOC or the USMB where I can ATTACH the pics for posterity?

Added PDF HERE: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... st44493241
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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No problem. Post them up!
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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n2x4 wrote:If you have a EJ22T, and you're looking to upgrade your fuel system, everyone loves the JDM greytop 440cc injectors. Here's a quick "how you can drop them into your Legacy Turbo fuel rails". This was done on a 91 EJ22T.

Parts list:
1 16608aa020 Seal-fuel Injector x4
2 16698aa020 O Ring-injector x4
3 16697aa000 Ring-injector x4
4 16696aa000 Spacer-injector x4
5 16698aa010 O Ring-injector x4

Picture of parts list (credit to bsod2600)
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Note: These directions are for removing the entire fuel rail, it could be done without removing the rail, but it's much easier if you do it this way. The old injectors WILL be stuck hard and if you can handle the rail, you'll have a much easier time. The only reason I could see NOT removing the rail is you want to save $25 only buying 4 new O-rings instead of 8.

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1. Disconnect the 4 injector plugs, and unbolt your fuel rails. There are 2 bolts on each rail that bolt the rail to the manifold, and 4 8mm fuel line bolts that need to be removed.

2. Remove the injector "caps". These are 8mm as well. Then remove the old injector from the rail. This requires a bit of work as they're tough to get out. I used my 8mm socket and tapped them out with a hammer. After the old injector is out, inspect the inside of the fuel rail to make sure all the old o-rings came out.

3. Assemble your 440's with their hardware. Here's a picture of the greytop next to the pinktop:

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Injectors and some of the proper O-rings. You need 4 of each of these:
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By n2x4

I bought these injectors with hardware back in 2007 but never installed them. Per Kleinkid's instruction, I bought these other O-rings which aren't listed in the JDM FSM scan, 16696AA000 which goes up where the red ring was drawn:

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4. Set the injector into the rail. It won't go completely in, so screw back on the injector cap to seat the injector the rest of the way. Here's what 440cc injectors look like in the rails. O-ring 16608AA020 is pointed out in red:
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Reinstalling the injector caps and the fuel rail to manifold bolts calls for 17ft. lbs. DO NOT forget to reinstall the metal spacer/washer that goes between the intake manifold and the fuel rail. Forgetting to do so will bend your fuel rail :wink:

There are 2 other injector O-rings that I didn't list part numbers for as the injectors I purchased already had them installed. Here is a picture of all the o-rings that go on the injector, and their part number. Don't mind that it's got a yellow top, they still use the same parts. Thanks Kleinkid!

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By n2x4

There are also 3 o-rings that go on the ends of the fuel rails between the fuel line.

Do you still have those images of this awesome write ☝
I wanna check and make sure we have the same injector. Before ordering these, thanx
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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That's weird....the pictures are still on imageshack's website but don't show up. I'm not sure what's going on.
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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Does anyone know what the part number is for the injector cap? Of course I broke one getting the injectors out.
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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sleepinsuby wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 pm Does anyone know what the part number is for the injector cap? Of course I broke one getting the injectors out.
Are you looking for the metal injector cap?
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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It’s a plastic cap that goes over the spray tip on the injector. Having issues posting a pic here.
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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If you go up a couple post to the pic of the injector is a brown cap on the tip.
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Re: How To: 440cc Injectors in Legacy Turbo Rails

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I don't think you can order just the cap over the spray nozzle. You may be able to try contacting an injector cleaning/repair shop to see if they have a spare around or maybe someone has a spare injector you can use. Short of that I'd suggest just getting another injector.
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