91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Heads, valves, pistons, rods, crankshaft, etc...

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
subiedoutlegacy
First Gear
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 pm
Location: Northern New Jersey
Contact:

91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by subiedoutlegacy »

Hey guys I hope you can help me brain storm this I've had nothing but issues with this car. One night I stopped at 7&11 I come out and it doesn't start, it is throwing random codes 13 cam sensor 17 injector one 35 purge solenoid, 45 & 49 air flow meter. I've in the past year replaced the purge solenoid, maf, plugs, wires, coil, pump and hoses. The car had no leaks in air since it was smoke tested just last month also I checked all the lines. I'm completely lost I still have to scope test the crank and cam sensor and check the pump. Any ideas on what else I can check I'm just completely frustrated.
91 Mica Ruby Legacy Sport 550 Robtune
94 White Pearl Legacy L SOLD
04 San Remo Red Impreza WRX
04 Java Black Pearl Impreza STI
94 Crimson Pearl Legacy Sport Partout
subiedoutlegacy
First Gear
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 pm
Location: Northern New Jersey
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by subiedoutlegacy »

I want to add that before it completely wouldn't start it would start then sputter and immediately die. That only happened about ten times before it actually would not start.
91 Mica Ruby Legacy Sport 550 Robtune
94 White Pearl Legacy L SOLD
04 San Remo Red Impreza WRX
04 Java Black Pearl Impreza STI
94 Crimson Pearl Legacy Sport Partout
rallyak
Third Gear
Posts: 896
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:02 am
Location: Anchorage,Alaska

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by rallyak »

I just had the same problem and had me confused for a day. First, have you checked the fuel pump? Mine the pump was fine but had water in the tank. It sound like a fuel problem to me since it was sputtering and now it won't start.
Charles

90' White/Gray Outback DD workhorse (670,xxx) miles
92' Onyx Metallic (430,xxx) Wife's DD
68' Barracuda formula S 340 4spd coupe (ongoing project)
66' Mustang 2+2 4spd wife's (ongoing project)
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

Does the engine crank or just doesn't do anything?
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
subiedoutlegacy
First Gear
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 pm
Location: Northern New Jersey
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by subiedoutlegacy »

Engine cranks but won't start when it does start it sounds off timing and starving for fuel then dies still having the same issue. Could it be the igniter or cam sensor?
91 Mica Ruby Legacy Sport 550 Robtune
94 White Pearl Legacy L SOLD
04 San Remo Red Impreza WRX
04 Java Black Pearl Impreza STI
94 Crimson Pearl Legacy Sport Partout
subiedoutlegacy
First Gear
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 pm
Location: Northern New Jersey
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by subiedoutlegacy »

Fuel pump & fuel pump relay has been replaced as well now. Also for four days the car started and ran like a dream just a slight uneven idle but nothing to worrying then randomly it died again now im just frustrated was suppose to be taking it on a trip now im stuck.
91 Mica Ruby Legacy Sport 550 Robtune
94 White Pearl Legacy L SOLD
04 San Remo Red Impreza WRX
04 Java Black Pearl Impreza STI
94 Crimson Pearl Legacy Sport Partout
robertpaige
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1232
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:32 pm
Location: Portland, Oregon.

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by robertpaige »

If you've done that, you should check the timing. The belt may have slipped, is the car auto or manual? Some people have had issues with the belt slipping after driving it and then not being able to start it.
the guy who had the really low winestone SS on the corvette wheels
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

I gave you an idea on facebook a few minutes ago, and i'll get you the pictures here in a bit but have you inspected the plug at the pump? they can go bad as well, that's also a common problem.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

Image
Image
Image
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

CJ,

What are those pictures of?
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

I thinks that's the diodes for the fuel circuit.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

You mean the diodes for the fuel injection/ECU?
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

Yes, I think I saw this in the wiring schematic somewhere.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

Yes there is a MPFI diode that ties into the "alt 2" circuit as well as a high beam lighting diode.

There are probably a few more, but those are the two I know of off the top of my head.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

You can see in the pictures that one burned up at some point and was replaced. I don't know if beatersubi or the person before him fixed it. The other odd thing is the fuel pump wires are backwards on this car as well.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

What do you mean the fuel pump wires are backwards?
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

At the plug for the pump. They're backwards. I had to change the pins when I pulled the walbro out of the white car and put it in my 92ss. I swap the whole assembly. When I swapped both, they flowed opposite directions.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

Hmm....that's really weird.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
cj91legss
Fifth Gear
Posts: 6322
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:17 am
Location: Lakewood, Wa 98439
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by cj91legss »

Yeah caught me off guard as well.
91 L-TW Wagon with a full Swap -RIP
92 SS Prefaced, GD dash swapped, 22T/205 Hybrid 20 psi - BEAST!
93 SS Bone Stock Gone!
94 TW Bone Stock Gone!
91 SS 4EAT Sold!
98 LGT 4EAT
98 LGT Wagon 4EAT
subiedoutlegacy
First Gear
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:57 pm
Location: Northern New Jersey
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by subiedoutlegacy »

Update;
Looks like I never posted the resolution to this problem!! Common issue, under the rear seat is a plug that goes to the fuel pump. At that plug is an issue where the ground will actually melt!! bypassed the plug and the car has not given me any starting issues since!!
91 Mica Ruby Legacy Sport 550 Robtune
94 White Pearl Legacy L SOLD
04 San Remo Red Impreza WRX
04 Java Black Pearl Impreza STI
94 Crimson Pearl Legacy Sport Partout
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: 91 legacy turbo randomly died no start has spark help!

Post by Legacy777 »

Thanks for letting us know the resolution.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
Post Reply