rear lateral/control arm bushes

Struts, spring, anti-rollbars, braces and the like.

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

rear lateral/control arm bushes

Post by MY92 »

does anyone have the sti part # for these items? or recommend a good replacement for blown out oem rubber bushes.

cheers
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
Subaru for Life
First Gear
Posts: 87
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 6:55 pm
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, S. Florida

Re: rear lateral/control arm bushes

Post by Subaru for Life »

This is where I got mine from, probably one of the cheapest around. No need for the part number, it's already sorted out for ya.

Pye
MY92 wrote:does anyone have the sti part # for these items? or recommend a good replacement for blown out oem rubber bushes.

cheers
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

Where exactly?
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
Subaru for Life
First Gear
Posts: 87
Joined: Fri May 12, 2006 6:55 pm
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, S. Florida

Post by Subaru for Life »

Sorry, was at work and got busy :-D

If you need more info. just shoot an email to Jamie (Parts manager), or give her a call. She's very helpful.

https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/adva ... 3ff47efa52
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Post by 93forestpearl »

The SuperPro rear lateral link set is cheaper than those STi bushings. $89.95 for the set. http://www.boxer4racing.com/
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
scottzg
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 2278
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:19 am
Location: Saint Joe, CA - Redlands, CA

Post by scottzg »

93forestpearl wrote:The SuperPro rear lateral link set is cheaper than those STi bushings. $89.95 for the set. http://www.boxer4racing.com/
but they're polyurethane :(
[url=http://www.thawa.net/gallery/albums/album108/DSCF0330.jpg]90 legacy of awesomeness[/url]
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

And?
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
THAWA
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 6829
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:44 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Post by THAWA »

Poly sucks.
Rio Red 90 Legacy LS AWD 174k
Liquid Silver 92 SVX LS-L 88k
[url=http://folding.amdmbpond.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html]Do you fold?[/url]

I'm on First and First. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Post by 93forestpearl »

And why does polyurathane "suck"?

There may be more NVH, but poly is stiffer and more durable. Why the hate?
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
206er
Fifth Gear
Posts: 2590
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:24 pm

Post by 206er »

squeaks?
I'm sure if you would price factory bushings, the poly ones would be as cheap or cheaper.
me, I want to machine some bushings out of delrin. :twisted:
1994 Touring Wagon: ruby mica, 5mt swapped
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

Other than 'sucks' as a reason, does anyone else have a view on poly bushes in the control arms?

Josh? you out there.
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
THAWA
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 6829
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:44 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Post by THAWA »

Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.

Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.

Spherical would be the way to go I say.
Rio Red 90 Legacy LS AWD 174k
Liquid Silver 92 SVX LS-L 88k
[url=http://folding.amdmbpond.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html]Do you fold?[/url]

I'm on First and First. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

Good come back :)

I might look into the STi bushings then.
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Post by 93forestpearl »

THAWA wrote:Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.

Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.

Spherical would be the way to go I say.


Is that your opinion that poly is less durable? I've never heard complaints like that againt polyurathane. The SuperPro bushings have a texture on the inside that holds the lube agaist the pin. A common mistake is people don't use enough of the speacial lube, or use something petrolium based. That, of course, will destroy the bushing.
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
THAWA
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 6829
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:44 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Post by THAWA »

It's a fact.
Rio Red 90 Legacy LS AWD 174k
Liquid Silver 92 SVX LS-L 88k
[url=http://folding.amdmbpond.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html]Do you fold?[/url]

I'm on First and First. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Post by 93forestpearl »

Ok, its a fact, but I'm just wondering who out there has had problems, and under what application(s).
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Post by Legacy777 »

I don't have the info on the lateral links because I used the whiteline adj. links that come with poly bushings.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
scottzg
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 2278
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:19 am
Location: Saint Joe, CA - Redlands, CA

Post by scottzg »

93forestpearl wrote:
THAWA wrote:Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.

Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.

Spherical would be the way to go I say.


Is that your opinion that poly is less durable? I've never heard complaints like that againt polyurathane. The SuperPro bushings have a texture on the inside that holds the lube agaist the pin. A common mistake is people don't use enough of the speacial lube, or use something petrolium based. That, of course, will destroy the bushing.
ive personally seen a set of PU bushings on a vw that were so tight the suspension couldnt go to full droop as fast as i could jack it up, and then a 25k later they were so loose that you could feel the slop while driving the car. I imagine constant lube maintenance would make them last longer(i dont have a clue how those were maintained beyond that the original lube was done correctly), but why bother when you can get a more appropriate part for the application?
[url=http://www.thawa.net/gallery/albums/album108/DSCF0330.jpg]90 legacy of awesomeness[/url]
93forestpearl
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3043
Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:14 pm
Location: Twin Cities, MN

Post by 93forestpearl »

After doing a little research, ahem, I found that poly bushings are one of those things that will work great, but require regular maintenence. If they are squeaking, that means the pin is sliding against the poly without lube. That is when they start to destroy themselves. Polyurathane is sticky (think rollerblade wheels) and without plenty of lubrication, will get torn apart.


You gotta give a little to get a little.
→Dan

piddster34 at h0tma1l d0t c0m
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

So PU only for serious cars then.
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
THAWA
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 6829
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:44 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Post by THAWA »

PU only for people that have time to constantly lube.

Spherical for serious cars.
Rio Red 90 Legacy LS AWD 174k
Liquid Silver 92 SVX LS-L 88k
[url=http://folding.amdmbpond.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html]Do you fold?[/url]

I'm on First and First. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27884
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Post by Legacy777 »

I really think the lube thing with PU is over exagerated. I've got poly bushings on my lateral links & front & rear anti-sway bars and haven't messed with them at all....they don't squeak, and I haven't had any issues.

I think I regreased the rear anti-sway when I took everything apart for the AWD swap....but that'd just be stupid of me not to.....
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
THAWA
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 6829
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 7:44 pm
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Post by THAWA »

It's not overexagerated, it just depends on where the bushing is used, and how forces are being applied to it.

The VW thing isn't uncommon because of the placement of the bushing and where the forces are being applied.
Rio Red 90 Legacy LS AWD 174k
Liquid Silver 92 SVX LS-L 88k
[url=http://folding.amdmbpond.com/FoldingForOurFuture.html]Do you fold?[/url]

I'm on First and First. How can the same street intersect with itself? I must be at the nexus of the universe.
MY92
Second Gear
Posts: 284
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:24 am
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Post by MY92 »

I got a bargin on some PU bushes yesterday for the control arms and the trailing arms.

Will report on them once the're in.
John

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560635
scottzg
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 2278
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2003 8:19 am
Location: Saint Joe, CA - Redlands, CA

Post by scottzg »

THAWA wrote:The VW thing isn't uncommon because of the placement of the bushing and where the forces are being applied.
serious, the bushings on the torsion beam were HAMMERED. Must be because they influence the camber in the rear. The front was what made the car hard to drive though, because the steering was all sloppy and the car was kinda darty.

pu is fine where it isn't supposed to move, like on the steering rack or on the bottoms of droplinks- i have PU there myself.

as for over-exaggerated, although the 'net tends to do that, i only am speaking from experience. good luck!
[url=http://www.thawa.net/gallery/albums/album108/DSCF0330.jpg]90 legacy of awesomeness[/url]
Post Reply