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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Image Sorryfor the low light/grainy pic- It's at dusk- My '91 (at 21 in.) and my '16 loaner (at 26 in.) you could almost drive right under the rear!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:53 pm 
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That's an Outback though right?

The Outback is a bit more jacked up than the standard Legacy is now.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:01 pm 
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Yep-she's an outback-I don't think the dealer I go to has any sedans for service loners-we are wagon people!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:19 pm 
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I wish they still made a Legacy wagon.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:32 pm 
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The B.S. about them not selling well never held water!

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Compared to my 98 Outback with new suspension, the new ones look way jacked up. And enormous lol! Happily I don't have any complaints about legroom in mine. The raised roof really helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:39 am 
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mike-tracy wrote:
Compared to my 98 Outback with new suspension, the new ones look way jacked up. And enormous lol! Happily I don't have any complaints about legroom in mine. The raised roof really helps.

Another reason they are classified as an SUV-it will always be a wagon to me.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:30 pm 
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I actually think the current OUTBACK is the best outback ever.

I think the current LEGACY is the worst Legacy ever.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:08 pm 
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Current OB is better than the 4th gen Legacy OBXT with an manual trans? Cant say i agree with you there. ;) My only complaint with the 4th gens is they went backwards with rear seat width. There's less space and legroom compared to the 2nd gens I've owned.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:57 am 
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Dangit Mike, now I have to go sit in the back of my second gen and fourth gen to compare the two.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:15 am 
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PhyrraM wrote:
I actually think the current OUTBACK is the best outback ever.

I think the current LEGACY is the worst Legacy ever.

I thought the second gen leggy was the worst!

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allnines' wrote:
PhyrraM wrote:
I actually think the current OUTBACK is the best outback ever.

I think the current LEGACY is the worst Legacy ever.

I thought the second gen leggy was the worst!



In what way?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:07 pm 
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mike-tracy wrote:
Current OB is better than the 4th gen Legacy OBXT with an manual trans? Cant say i agree with you there. ;) .....


As a complete model lineup? Yes, as a "SUV/Crossover" it needed the size of the current car...which is still smaller than most other Crossovers. By the way, I hate the term crossover.

As a specific trim withing the group? Sure, I can see the OBXT w/manual as a top contender..but .... rare as hen's teeth. I might put up a 3.6R Outback (even with an auto) as a better overall CROSSOVER. Of course we are talking about personal preferences....actual sales say the current car is the best..by far. Of course, actual sales say a Civic and a Corolla are better than an Impreza....

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allnines' wrote:
I thought the second gen leggy was the worst!


I have mixed feelings about the 2nd gen.

I love them in GT form (especially a GT wagon), but prefer the first gen overall when not a GT. Also, I love the Outback in those years, but would prefer a (working) air suspension first gen if I had the choice.

I by far prefer the first gen interior/dashboard to the second gen. But the second gen can be found w/black leather and black dash while most first gen had blue/tan/grey dashboards and no leather. The coveted Black leather/black dash was never an option on the first gen...only tan or grey leather.

I never really cared for the 3rd gen Legacy as (to me) the headlights looked weird and the ass was fat. They are growing on me though and if i was to look for an Outback to simply drive and keep 100% stock it would most likely be a '00-'04 H6 L.L.Bean over a '95-'99.

The '05+ cars are still too new for an old timer like me to know much about. I almost bought a spec.B new, but chose not to.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:21 am 
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PhyrraM wrote:
mike-tracy wrote:
Current OB is better than the 4th gen Legacy OBXT with an manual trans? Cant say i agree with you there. ;) .....


As a complete model lineup? Yes, as a "SUV/Crossover" it needed the size of the current car...which is still smaller than most other Crossovers. By the way, I hate the term crossover.

As a specific trim withing the group? Sure, I can see the OBXT w/manual as a top contender..but .... rare as hen's teeth. I might put up a 3.6R Outback (even with an auto) as a better overall CROSSOVER. Of course we are talking about personal preferences....actual sales say the current car is the best..by far. Of course, actual sales say a Civic and a Corolla are better than an Impreza....

I'd rather drive a rotted 1st gen. impreza then a new corolla-and I'm in and out of those all day long at work!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:31 am 
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PhyrraM wrote:
allnines' wrote:
I thought the second gen leggy was the worst!


I have mixed feelings about the 2nd gen.

I love them in GT form (especially a GT wagon), but prefer the first gen overall when not a GT. Also, I love the Outback in those years, but would prefer a (working) air suspension first gen if I had the choice.

I by far prefer the first gen interior/dashboard to the second gen. But the second gen can be found w/black leather and black dash while most first gen had blue/tan/grey dashboards and no leather. The coveted Black leather/black dash was never an option on the first gen...only tan or grey leather.

I never really cared for the 3rd gen Legacy as (to me) the headlights looked weird and the ass was fat. They are growing on me though and if i was to look for an Outback to simply drive and keep 100% stock it would most likely be a '00-'04 H6 L.L.Bean over a '95-'99.

The '05+ cars are still too new for an old timer like me to know much about. I almost bought a spec.B new, but chose not to.
Lease I forget the extremely poor quality seats!-even with new suspension, my seats will "bottom out" on a certain point on one road-it's not even a pot hole!

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PhyrraM wrote:
allnines' wrote:
I thought the second gen leggy was the worst!


I have mixed feelings about the 2nd gen.

I love them in GT form (especially a GT wagon), but prefer the first gen overall when not a GT. Also, I love the Outback in those years, but would prefer a (working) air suspension first gen if I had the choice.

I by far prefer the first gen interior/dashboard to the second gen. But the second gen can be found w/black leather and black dash while most first gen had blue/tan/grey dashboards and no leather. The coveted Black leather/black dash was never an option on the first gen...only tan or grey leather.

I never really cared for the 3rd gen Legacy as (to me) the headlights looked weird and the ass was fat. They are growing on me though and if i was to look for an Outback to simply drive and keep 100% stock it would most likely be a '00-'04 H6 L.L.Bean over a '95-'99.

The '05+ cars are still too new for an old timer like me to know much about. I almost bought a spec.B new, but chose not to.


It's interesting the differences in personal preference. For instance, I think the interior of the second gen is much better than the first gen, to the point where I have zero desire to own a first gen again.

Subaru only seems to get the looks right every other generation in my opinion. 1-3-5 all look awkward and ugly, while 2-4-6 are all pretty good. The clear divide to me in "modern feeling" is between 2-3. 5+6 are a little large for me, but great cars in their class.

Current owner of a turbo 99 GT sedan, 05 GT 5mt wagon, 02 Outback Limited with DR 5mt.

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