Racing brakes

aspect · Post by **aspect** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:10 pm

Hey guys, I'm looking for racing pads but it seems hard to find anything for the legacy turbo fronts. Hoping for something like a ferodo 3000 or 4003. No grip when cold is not an issue.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:57 pm

Upgrade to WRX fronts and get whatever you want.

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:10 am

My Brake setup now consists of WRX brakes all the way around, and ebc green pads. I like the bite of the pads. In addition, I also switched to the wagon proportioning valve. This shifts the brake bias to the rear of the car, hence, when you really hit the jew pedal, your ass end is skidding first.

Not a bad brake setup, although, with my current suspension, the weight shift is definitly more noticeable.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:19 pm

Tristan,

You're still probably fine. I've got an additional 10% of rearward shift with the LGT rear brakes compared to you're setup.

What do you have for your suspension setup?

jamal · Post by **jamal** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:27 pm

evolutionmovement wrote:Upgrade to WRX fronts and get whatever you want.

I think it's for his rally car, and that makes it a little harder to use rally tires. RS brakes are the same size, use the same number of pistons, and have more pad choices. Are you allowed to change them?

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:32 am

josh, my suspension is stock. for now.

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:20 pm

Yeah, you should be fine.

IronMonkeyL255 · Post by **IronMonkeyL255** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:55 am

EBC has pretty much every type of their pads for our cars.

For racing, look into their RedStuff (street and race) or Yellowstuff (full race).

Part Numbers!!!!!
RedStuff
front - DP3966C
rear - DP3821C

YellowStuff
front - DP4966R
rear - DP4821R

I know the RedStuff are available from Summit, but I dunno about where to get the YellowStuff.

Porterfield also supposedly has some available (R4 and R4-S) for ours, but I don't have part numbers, since I can't find them on their site. I got quotes from a vendor on Nasioc for some various pads.

Hope that helps some.

Also, if you need to contact other manufacturers, you are looking for pads with a certain d-plate #. This number defines shape, size, and thickness of the pad.

For ours, the numbers are as follows:

front - D563
rear - D471

These also happen to be the same pads as on the '95-'96 2.2l Imprezas.

Hope that helps some.

mattyg41383 · Post by **mattyg41383** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:55 am

I have EBC Green stuff pads on EBC sport rotors (slotted + dimpled) stopping power is great. I'm sure the red or yellow would be even better. so I recommend them

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:04 pm

I've noticed recently on mine that I get a fair amount of shudder (thru the wheel) when braking. I suspect, that its due in part, to my shift of the brake bias, and also that my rear rotors were turned, not replaced.
I would wager that, when shifting the brake bias to the rear (or, owning a wagon) means you can't turn your rear rotors, they must be replaced. Also, the greens make just a tad bit of noise under light braking. Kinda squealeeeeeee

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:06 am

Legacy777 wrote:Yeah, you should be fine.

stock suspension would want a more rear biased brake set up than something that really hooks up.

FWIW, i have rs front brakes and a wagon prop valve. I tried running wagon rear calipers (which would provide the same balance as stock) with the prop valve and found a little dicey for trail braking,you could feel the rear wandering a bit over bumps. I stuck my stock calipers back on the rear, ill probably swap the wagon calipers on with the sedan valve when i muck with my brakes again, they seem to be burning up front pads faster than usual.
all opinion not based on science or .xls's.

IronMonkeyL255 · Post by **IronMonkeyL255** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:12 pm

running my stock brakes with a wagon prop. valve, my pads seem to be wearing much more evenly than before.

When running it in stock trim, I ran through a set of OEM front pads in less than a year, while the rears, installed at the same time, were only worn a little. Just recently, when doing my rear lines and bleeding my calipers, I noticed the front pads weren't worn nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Post by **Legacy777** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:36 pm

scottzg wrote:stock suspension would want a more rear biased brake set up than something that really hooks up.

How so? You have more weight shift with stock suspension under hard braking, therefore you need to unload the rear brakes a little more to keep them from locking up.

IronMonkeyL255 · Post by **IronMonkeyL255** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:45 pm

scottzg wrote:all opinion not based on ... .xls's.

Was that a jab at me for sorting through the information and providing facts I thought relevant?

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