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Yup, to each his/her own. I personally have tested the sti tmic on my legacy running almost 17psi off my td05 in 89 degree weather with no ill effects. I use my intercooler spray semi-frequently, hitting it for 3-5 seconds for every run into extended boost. After a hard run with my friend's m3 and another friend's turbo si I still pulled from them like I did in the wintertime, where after a hard run I'd pull over and the intercooler would be COLD!

I understand your point with the a/w top mount, but when cost is taken into account, I'd suggest a top mount. If you're will to pay more for an a/w and all the assorted accessories, you might as well go custom front mount!!

Hehe. Good point about those wrxs. Seems like everyone who used to own a civic jumped on the wrx bandwagon!! That's why I plan on keeping this car till the bitter end!!

-boostjunkie (blowing doors off of wrxs on the other side of the world )[/quote]

Many consider the stock hood scoop on the legacy/liberty to be inadiquate{probably spelled that wrong}to flow enough air to a tmic.I know I personally want a tmic w/bigger scoop or fmic.I would also like to fab a port in the hood kinda like the earlier evo's over the air intake.box it in around a cone filter and have a true cold air intake.A legacy/wrx/evo mix breed.ya... sounds perfect to me

Hold your horses there Boostjunkie. The cost of a front-mount is nothing compared to the cost of a Liberty RS A/W Intercooler. The A/W intercooler itself can be had for $100-200... heat exchanger can come from anything (I paid $20 for radiator from a 1600cc engine). And the absolute best completely sweet water pump (Jabsco impeller style) can be had for $150-200. Assume the worst price for everything and you are looking at around $600. The heater hose needed to complete installation is neglible.

On the other hand FMIC cores run around $900+ (they may be cheaper used or on e-bay) and I rarely see a nice one for under $1000. And the tubing has to be perfect, straight, and no sharp bends. And that isn't cheap tubing. What I'm getting at is that people seem to put down Air-water as expensive and overly complex. You have to do the same, if not more, work to put a FMIC in. And I'll have a fully functional A/W for under $300. The part is already made for the car and just needs to be found and shipped. Custom frount mount is going to set you back at LEAST four digits.

i was quoated 200 for cusom pipes to be ran in my car for a front mount. you can get a nice fmic for about 400, that is a nice one. so about 600 for a front mount. sounds good to me. water cooling is good, but adding 30 lb of just water does not seem like it would help the hp to weigh idea.

an 18x7x3 spearco core can be had for $300. then just add piping, couplers and clamps. can be done for $6-700 total.

dang, 700 for fmic piping, that is crazy. i should take mine down and get it done and see if they still charge me 300.

NuwanD That cooler looks very good, like its factory done. duck tape ya that will work 4 those pigs. in ontario canada the cops got special pepole on hand to get u in ur street car. i whent to the worlds biggest fresh water beach its caled wassaga beach up north canada. wow r the cops crazy up there i didnt whant to drive my car near the beach cuz they would give me tickets 4 every thing. but u put a wrx hood scoop in and it fit wit the factroy holes shoe me a pic i would love a bigger scoop not like it would be any use but it would look cool. ciao NuwanD

in this pic it looks like you made it so the bypas valve ( oem bov) line is going back into the ic, why did you just not cap this. it seems as if you would be getting some flow that is not going to the turbo?


you can see that its the line with the red on it.

my bad, from this pic you can see that it is capped, what did you use to cap it?

hey, still working on getting a hold of a camera. I just used a rubber cap i found at work. Very similar to something you would find covering the end of a metal tube on things such as chair legs or stands of some sort. I'm sure your local hardware store would have something that would fit.

do you have the part number of the tube that you used?

the NAPA part number is 21304.

Keep in mind that i had to hack up the hose a bit to get it to fit just right, but it was the best starting point i think.

I have been thinking about going with a saab 900 i/c set up but I got to thinking about how nice the oem wrx i/c would be.then I got to thinking about how i was thinking about getting a TD04 off a wrx for that exhaust system i won.well this would solve the piping problem from the turbo to the i/c right?I would have the right angle to start with making it much easier.what do you guys think?the wrx i/c isn't that much more then a saab's really

you will have the right angle if it is from a 96 or earlier model wrx after that it was a direct air path underneath the inlet manifold

why only 96 or earlier?I'm talking about 02' + wrx's.if I change the turbo to a wrx td04 and then use the wrx intercooler then I would have the right angle right?I know you need the early 93-96 tmic if you dont change the stock legacy turbo to have the same angle.the new wrx i/c's are going for less then the 93-96 i/c's as far as I can tell and are easier to get over here.not sure but they flow better too don't they?

Even with a 93 - 96 WRX intercooler, you'll need some pipe fabricated IIRC. We got a strange turbo here in the US, and that's the contributing factor, not the IC.

-Brian

I know this all already.I am talking about putting a new usdm wrx turbo and intercooler on at the same time,not one or the other.and I might still have to do a custom pipe between the two which is ok.I'm just saying starting at a similar angle would make this proccess easier

Gotcha. Sorry for my confusion.

-Brian

Its all good I was just kinda thinking out loud anyways

subiekid wrote:dang, 700 for fmic piping, that is crazy. i should take mine down and get it done and see if they still charge me 300.

i am dumb, i see now that you are saying it would be 6 to 700 total for a front mount. that is waht i was saying. but i had different prices for the pipes.

I have a wrx intercooler and bov, and i need the two metal thingys that the hoses connect to. could i get these from NAPA or do i have to go to a subaru dealership?? oh and i need all the hoses and stuff

Do you mean the part similar to the thermostat housing outlet?

why only 96 or earlier?I'm talking about 02' + wrx's.if I change the turbo to a wrx td04 and then use the wrx intercooler then I would have the right angle right?I know you need the early 93-96 tmic if you dont change the stock legacy turbo to have the same angle.the new wrx i/c's are going for less then the 93-96 i/c's as far as I can tell and are easier to get over here.not sure but they flow better too don't they?

Ive tried that and it doesnt work. The wrx compressor outlet shoots directly toward the throttle body. It only clears it by millimeters. But...maybe the uppipe is bent differently on a wrx...hmmm..something to look into.

-Jim

LegacyPunk555 wrote:I have a wrx intercooler and bov, and i need the two metal thingys that the hoses connect to. could i get these from NAPA or do i have to go to a subaru dealership?? oh and i need all the hoses and stuff

the metal flanges that go on the back of the ic are only at the dealer, they will run you about 80 something for the 2 then you need 2 gaskets and they are like 4 bucks a pop.

also how did you make the pipe into a "y" did you use a "T" fitting, if so what kind of T fitting was i? was it the kind used for pvc pipe? would that stuff melt after a while?