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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:21 pm
by boostjunkie
BAC5.2, I would've liked to have gotten one of the vr4s you referred me to, but I think I'd like to go with a more reliable option. A newer car is a little more reliable electrically, as I found out by working on my legacy.

Matt, the rumors about the engine falling out of the powerband must be due to some lazy (read: slow) shifters. I've had no problems with the engine falling out of the powerband. I shift a "little" quicker than in my turbo legacy, but by no means any more inconveniently or rushed. Also, 2002 Celica's lowering of the redline. The 2002s had a 7800rpm redline vs. the 2000-2001, and 2003-2004's 8400rpm redline. Considering that the peak power is made at 7800 rpms, this was a really poor choice for the 2002s. Those were immediately axed from my list of choices in cars.

There were several tests done with the cam switchover point with an Apex-i Power FC (which I'd like to get my hands on) and in all honesty, they found that the 6000rpm changeover point to be optimal given the lobe variances and torque curves. They cross at around 6200rpm, and given the changeover rate of the cam engagement system, 6000rpm still seems to be the optimal changeover point.
Matt Monson wrote:Boostjunkie,
Something you might explore with that GT-S is gettting an aftermarket VVT controller to move the cam switchover down a few hundred RPMs. One of the major complaints that I have read about with this car is that it is tuned so that if you hit redline in any of the first few gears, it drops back down to the emissions/fuel economy cam because of the tranny gearing. Changing that switch over point would do a lot for the performance and driveability of the car. Otherwise, I think your focus on handling is well founded...

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:21 am
by THAWA
HURRAY!!

Soon as I read it was going to vikash a big ass smile went on my face :D It is very awesome that the car is still with us and not in some impreza doods hands. As for the celica, I personally would've went with an early 90's all-trac or whatever, but good choice none the less. Wasn't this the car where they made those commecials with that stupid body kit and everyone was like the car was parked and people would come by and think it was speeding, like a cop wrote a ticket and some old man was yelling at the car, know what I'm talking about?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:54 am
by LegacyT
So vrg3, are you fixing up the car to drive or pulling those parts?

Mark

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:55 am
by THAWA
if you're parting it, please please please lemme hit the stock intake and maybe your old turbo :wink:

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:01 am
by BAC5.2
As I understand it, he is using the car as a test bed for his ECU and other mods before using them on his daily driver. Something to that effect anyway.

I don't think he has any plans of parting it out.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:15 am
by vrg3
Yeah, I'm definitely planning on fixing it up. The car will be a good test bed for a remapped ECU since it's so different from stock. It's also one of the faster BCs out there, so it'd be a shame to reduce it to a pile of parts.

Sorry guys.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:17 am
by THAWA
it's okay, I agree it would suck to dismantle it, but im getting hungry for boost :)

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:39 am
by boostjunkie
THAWA wrote:HURRAY!!

Soon as I read it was going to vikash a big ass smile went on my face :D It is very awesome that the car is still with us and not in some impreza doods hands. As for the celica, I personally would've went with an early 90's all-trac or whatever, but good choice none the less. Wasn't this the car where they made those commecials with that stupid body kit and everyone was like the car was parked and people would come by and think it was speeding, like a cop wrote a ticket and some old man was yelling at the car, know what I'm talking about?
I would've gone with an all-trac, but the closest one I found was in Ohio! Not gonna happen.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:37 am
by georryan
Well Personally I can't think of a better owner exchange. The fastest 91 (except for maybe Nico's 91) with probalby the most knowlegable guy on the board. The combination should be a fun one to watch. :)

Happy modding vrg3!

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:22 am
by BAC5.2
vrg3 - You should swap all the power goodies and everything to your 93, and turn the 91 back to stock.

THAWA - The commercials you saw were for the Action package. True factory Rice.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:57 am
by evolutionmovement
Boostjunkie, Vikash, What turbo does the car have?

Yeah, the turbo Celicas are rare and expensive. When I see them they're always over $7k which is way to much for a contemporary of the cheaper Legacy turbo.

Steve

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:04 pm
by boostjunkie
A subaru tdo5-16G.

WAY over priced for a car that has little to no aftermarket support. It's worse than our cars! I mean, your cars.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:59 pm
by LaureltheQueen
you know when you see a really embarassing scene in a movie, like on american pie, or bridget jones' diary, or meet the parents, and you get physically embarassed for the character in the movie? thats how i feel when i see the action package celica :oops:

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:09 pm
by vrg3
BAC5.2 - You're just saying that because you want me to sell you the goodies that I already have on my 93. :P

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:49 pm
by BAC5.2
Well that depends on what you've done suspension wise ;)

There are a few key parts that I could use from your car though ;)