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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:30 pm
by QuickDrive
When I was 18 my 5 spd tercel could "power shift" thru every gear, including getting from neutral to 1st.

I thought it was the coolest thing. I even learned how to down shift with it.

It only occured to my a few years later when I lost my transmission that it was doing more bad than anything "Cool"

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:18 pm
by entirelyturbo
I don't know what "flat-shifting" is either...

But I really don't mind beating the hell out of something that isn't mine (read: company car :twisted: )

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:52 pm
by boostjunkie
That reminds me of a time when my friend was test driving a Matrix. He didn't really know how to drive a manual too well and the dealer gave us the car . . . with 5 MILES on it!! I drove it up to Baltimore (about 45 minutes away) running through the gears like I stole the thing (still didn't powershift, tho). The car came back with almost 90 HARD miles on it.

Don't even get me started on rental cars. I had a rental saturn that I took to an autocross. I did ebrake slides and such in it . . . rolled the tires so bad that the plastic wheel cover MELTED into the steelie! LOL!

My friend has a video of that autox :twisted:

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:54 pm
by BAC5.2
Flat shifting would be pedal to the metal jab the clutch and fling it into gear. It'll always be the fastest way to shift a manual transmission, but FAR from the friendliest way to do it. I couldn't EVER bring myself to do that to my (or any) car.

I always thought power-shifting was just ham-fisted shifting (yanking it into gear rather than letting the syncros do their jobs).

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:02 pm
by boostjunkie
BAC5.2 wrote:Flat shifting would be pedal to the metal jab the clutch and fling it into gear. It'll always be the fastest way to shift a manual transmission, but FAR from the friendliest way to do it. I couldn't EVER bring myself to do that to my (or any) car.

I always thought power-shifting was just ham-fisted shifting (yanking it into gear rather than letting the syncros do their jobs).
Your description of flat shifting is pretty close to how I have to drive my celica to make it stay in lift. Uh-oh :shock:

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:17 pm
by evolutionmovement
We always used power shifting to describe not using the clutch, but matching the revs and just changing gears (like a dog box, but with a regular trans).

Steve

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:04 pm
by BAC5.2
Jason - You do let off the throttle though when you shift, right? ... Right?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:43 pm
by NemesisEJ22t
Which Celicas are you talking about? I tried to powershift my Celica once which led to the worst sound I've ever heard come from a car in my life. If you think your GT-S makes everyone want to race you, try driving a red 92 Celica with a black hood + hood scoop from an All-Trac. I get late 80's Cavaliers trying their luck. Luckily, I never had to go past 5 psi to prove my point in that car. Man, now you've got me missing that thing.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:47 am
by boostjunkie
Yes, I let off the throttle. But I go through the clutch motion and go back on the gas pretty fast. Did that in the legacy when I had it.

And I'm driving a new celica now. I think that's what they're talkin about.