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everyone is different and has different tastes.......the car's fine in stock form, but if you're looking more for performance.....there's definitely things to improve upon.
Josh
surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT
If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT
If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
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entirelyturbo
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With regards to performance and mods, I do think the Legacy is an excellent performing car right out of the box. There are improvements to be made, sure... But it's still entertaining to drive stock.
Ultimately, here's why I don't mod my car anymore: Many of the mods I once had compromised one aspect of performance to enhance another. The cone filter made noise and gave top-end, but sacrificed idle quality and low-end. The rims I had increased the cornering capability and looks, but sacrificed power and ride quality. Of course, I was a stupid kid when I started doing that stuff, and I know much more now what really makes a car perform. That's why the mods I've done do not compromise anything at all. The throttle-body bypass has no negative repercussions, it just increases the efficiency of the engine ever so slightly. The Turbo swaybar did nothing to the car except reduce body roll and stabilize the back end. Those kind of mods I like because they improve the performance of the car without taking away its everyday civility.
I hafta take ciper's opinion with this one though. If you're going to do stuff to your car, have a well-thought-out plan, do NOT half-ass anything, and don't be afraid to spend some money. It's extremely difficult to take your daily driver, keep it running in good condition, and mod it at the same time. So you can't really do either exceptionally well which unfortunately means you're pretty much wasting your time
I have turned my Legacy into another project, to make it the most perfect and all-around most user-friendly daily driver possible. I want it to look good, have decent tunes (no box, just quality sound from stock setup), and run as perfectly as possible. Speed is not a concern.
That's why I can't wait to start my big secret project. This project concerns nothing more than speed and durability. It will not be used as a daily, so I can concentrate solely on its performance.
But ultimately, as Josh said, do what you want to your car. Personalize it.
Ultimately, here's why I don't mod my car anymore: Many of the mods I once had compromised one aspect of performance to enhance another. The cone filter made noise and gave top-end, but sacrificed idle quality and low-end. The rims I had increased the cornering capability and looks, but sacrificed power and ride quality. Of course, I was a stupid kid when I started doing that stuff, and I know much more now what really makes a car perform. That's why the mods I've done do not compromise anything at all. The throttle-body bypass has no negative repercussions, it just increases the efficiency of the engine ever so slightly. The Turbo swaybar did nothing to the car except reduce body roll and stabilize the back end. Those kind of mods I like because they improve the performance of the car without taking away its everyday civility.
I hafta take ciper's opinion with this one though. If you're going to do stuff to your car, have a well-thought-out plan, do NOT half-ass anything, and don't be afraid to spend some money. It's extremely difficult to take your daily driver, keep it running in good condition, and mod it at the same time. So you can't really do either exceptionally well which unfortunately means you're pretty much wasting your time
I have turned my Legacy into another project, to make it the most perfect and all-around most user-friendly daily driver possible. I want it to look good, have decent tunes (no box, just quality sound from stock setup), and run as perfectly as possible. Speed is not a concern.
That's why I can't wait to start my big secret project. This project concerns nothing more than speed and durability. It will not be used as a daily, so I can concentrate solely on its performance.
But ultimately, as Josh said, do what you want to your car. Personalize it.
Couldn't have said it better myself. When I origianlly got my Legacy, I was immediately taken with wealth of features that were (for my particular model) standard: e.g., 4 wheel disc brakes, AWD, 4 wheel independant suspension, all aluminum flat 4, MPFI, etc, etc...
In time, I found many more little surprises that caused me not only to like my car, but to love it.
Granted, taking into consideration some of the above posts, for the average person of moderate means, you really do have to keep things in perspective: is that 250.00 worth of performance upgrade really going to make my everyday commute better or would it be a better bet just to use stock replacement parts? I suppose the point is moot, because unless I'm driving my car like I wish I could (rallyX, autoX), I'll probably end up driving it like I should -normally.
If I had unlimited means, sure, I'd drop every last cent I could into my car. I'd have every top of the line engine, wheel, suspension and brake component possible. Not only that, but I'd also have killer paint, and whatever else I could add as a matter of principle.
Unforunately, most of the time, the best I can afford is what works, right now. Have I noticed an appreciable difference? Not really, but at the same time, I can rest assured that my car runs immpecably, gets decent mileage and will still outperform most other sedans in it's class/age range without mods of any sort. That's pretty cool, I think.
Ultimately, I'm in total agreement about personalizing your car (Hell, that's half the fun of owning these vehicles). Do whatever you can afford to do, while maximizing your driving experience at the same time.
Sometimes it's best to take your pleasures wherever you can find them.
In time, I found many more little surprises that caused me not only to like my car, but to love it.
Granted, taking into consideration some of the above posts, for the average person of moderate means, you really do have to keep things in perspective: is that 250.00 worth of performance upgrade really going to make my everyday commute better or would it be a better bet just to use stock replacement parts? I suppose the point is moot, because unless I'm driving my car like I wish I could (rallyX, autoX), I'll probably end up driving it like I should -normally.
If I had unlimited means, sure, I'd drop every last cent I could into my car. I'd have every top of the line engine, wheel, suspension and brake component possible. Not only that, but I'd also have killer paint, and whatever else I could add as a matter of principle.
Unforunately, most of the time, the best I can afford is what works, right now. Have I noticed an appreciable difference? Not really, but at the same time, I can rest assured that my car runs immpecably, gets decent mileage and will still outperform most other sedans in it's class/age range without mods of any sort. That's pretty cool, I think.
Ultimately, I'm in total agreement about personalizing your car (Hell, that's half the fun of owning these vehicles). Do whatever you can afford to do, while maximizing your driving experience at the same time.
Sometimes it's best to take your pleasures wherever you can find them.
Bob
90 Legacy LS AWD n/a -190,000 and going strong!
91 Legacy SS -currently stock and awaiting marginal upgrades (dead) RIP
90 Legacy LS AWD n/a -190,000 and going strong!
91 Legacy SS -currently stock and awaiting marginal upgrades (dead) RIP
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