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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:06 pm
by Brat4by4
Careful not to jump to quick conclusions. I think you have a problem that proceeds any other mechanical limitation.

You are running lean. You gotta fix that first. And on that topic, the ECU doesn't know how to make all that power from a 16g and a 3" turboback. So if you get your car tuned correctly... then go back to the dyno and see how much power you make then. If you just slap different heads on there, I'm pretty sure you will end up dissappointed at the results. Remember you have to fix one variable at a time. Get the car tuned first, my $.02

And remember it is the torque curve that made people swear that the 22b had over 350 hp...

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:17 pm
by BAC5.2
Oh, yea, I know I'm running lean. I've got no injector clearance though. The MAF reads 5v, and injector pulse width is minimal. The injectors are wide open.

The best I could do, would be to up the fuel pressure to the rails, and hope that'll give me some clearance up top.

The stock ECU will be doing nothing, to almost nothing very soon. That will give me all of the clearence that I need to do anything I want :).

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:49 pm
by QuickDrive
Dude, I woulda been super stoked if I pulled those numbers. you know how well the car feels while driving.

First off the fact that the car isn't a WRX should give you all the prowess in the world.
I love it when someone comments on "It's how old?" or "it's pretty fast, whats in it" (not many subie owners here)

Props to you phil.

Now do what Brat4by4 said and take the tuning in steps and you'll be rocking...

Don't forget you've only had the car for a year and abit

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:50 pm
by BAC5.2
It'll be 1 year tomorrow :)

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:07 am
by azn2nr
11.5.1 sounds to me just right. i was under the impression that most people wanted their afr to be down about that range for race maps.

hopefully i can get to the dyno soon. i finaly hit the fuel cut today at 16psi ( because the positive pressure line came apart) which is about 14 at your altiude.

im not a expert by any means but if you think about it ej20g's have about 280 chp stock with doch heads and 16g and they have tons of room to improve too. i think some new heads would make worlds of difference for your car.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:15 am
by DLC
Nice numbers. I wish i had that engine in my new car...

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:22 am
by LaureltheQueen
dood, i finally watched the vids... your bov sounds mean

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:13 am
by BAC5.2
Lol, thanks Laurel.

Dave - Me too. I was talking to Hardy, thinking about how cool it would be if you had an EJ257 under the hood...

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:16 am
by LaureltheQueen
it'd be cool til i totalled the car. Not worth the expense either. My mom complained about me spending too much on my car. I told her that lots of things have to be replaced on a car with that many miles.




Like the turbo :twisted:

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:18 am
by Yukonart
BAC5.2 wrote:Lol, thanks Laurel.

Dave - Me too. I was talking to Hardy, thinking about how cool it would be if you had an EJ257 under the hood...

* Goes outside and installs hoodlocks *



UH UH. . . not outta MY car!!!! :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:48 am
by LaureltheQueen
"why's my car so slow?"

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:52 am
by BAC5.2
Laurel - That's what I tell my parents. I'm replacing something old and wearing, with something new, better, and more efficient.

My mom understands, she had a BOSS 302 back in the day. My dad doesn't really I don't think.

I still call my mom when I get more than 18mpg, to brag.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:04 am
by LaureltheQueen
i only get 19mpg. :(

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:05 am
by Yukonart
Bah . . . both of you are still better-off than I am. :cry:

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:19 am
by LaureltheQueen
and we're both making less hp than you are. Quit bitching. :P

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:45 am
by biggreen96
hey bac where can I find a list of your mods?

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:55 pm
by BAC5.2
LaureltheQueen wrote:and we're both making less hp than you are. Quit bitching. :P
But not torque....

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:36 am
by Yukonart
BAC5.2 wrote:
LaureltheQueen wrote:and we're both making less hp than you are. Quit bitching. :P
But not torque....

Shhh. . . I still have a few foot-lbs of torque on you, Phil. ;)

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:35 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Probably not for long though....

;)

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:45 am
by LaureltheQueen
"that is some righteous torque"


you need to do your headlights......desperately

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:49 am
by BAC5.2
lol, that's just grime and salt build up. My headlights are acutally pretty clear.

Yea, as usual, Matt is right :twisted:

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:14 am
by azn2nr
just a curious thought but after talking to some of the people on nasioc and the aussies you were runnin rich on thoes dyno runs not lean.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:19 am
by BAC5.2
How do you figure I was rich instead of lean?

I'm fairly certain that I was lean.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:27 pm
by azn2nr
according to them 14.x (cant remember) is stochiometric. when the number on the left goes down your running rich. as it goes up your running lean. marksrs on the ausi side was down in the 10.x with his afrs running 20psi on a 16g. he only has a fuel pump and a morgie style fcd. he said that there was black smoke from the excess gas when he dynoed or raced his car at the track, cant remember which one. im tired.

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:33 pm
by vrg3
You guys are disagreeing on the definition of "lean."

Technically, yes, Jason, any mixture with more air than stoichiometric is lean.

But what Phil meant is that he was not running rich enough.

13:1 is not rich enough for good safe running on boost. 10:1, on the other hand, is probably a little too rich.

It's worth noting that most air/fuel ratio sensing equipment can't read much richer than 10:1, so someone who thinks they're running 10:1 mixtures could very well be running a good deal richer.