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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:19 am
by vrg3
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Lugging is harder on the bearings than not lugging... The difference may not be significant for a long time on our engines, but there is a difference. I see your point, though -- for many people the difference may not matter since they don't plan to keep the car long enough for it to matter.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:18 am
by 206er
2oz of acetone per 10 gallons of gas is good for 3 or so mpg :wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:43 am
by LaureltheQueen
1. buy that postage legacy with all the rust
2. remove engine & kick out rust in floorboards
3. get 3 passengers
4. proceed to roll flintstones style
5. ???
6. profit

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:00 pm
by tris91ricer
LaureltheQueen wrote:1. buy that postage legacy with all the rust
2. remove engine & kick out rust in floorboards
3. get 3 passengers
4. proceed to roll flintstones style
5. ???
6. profit

*cackles* I call the backseat!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:46 pm
by snowboarded
legacy92ej22t wrote: develope an alternative fuel source that derives from cow farts.
Easy, I already looked into that myself.
Version 1.0 soon to come out, special discount for bbs-ers.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:21 am
by isotopeman
66 miles to work?
I thought living 10 miles from work three years ago was leaving myself vulnerable and overly dependant on fossil fuels. Rather than have my livelihood at the mercy of supply/demand of gas, I moved. I spent 7bucks in all of August on gas, and most of it is still in the wagon.
Not everybody can move, but choosing where we live and how we get to work often takes too much for granted - like cheap gas - and leaves us at risk if we let it.
You should seat a few people easily in your Legacy. Are there carpool info sites or networks in your area?
-Tom

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:46 am
by J-MoNeY
I'm about to burn my F'n TW to the ground. I got an AMAZING 200 miles to the 16 gallon tank. Yes people, that's 12.5 miles per gallon. I hate this car more and more.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:59 am
by LaureltheQueen
welcome to the wonderful world of the fucking heavy awd, at, turbo car. 16mpg last fillup

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:26 am
by 91White-T
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Well this is my solution... I dont know what the rest of you are gonna do though...

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:47 am
by Tleg93
isotopeman wrote:66 miles to work?
I thought living 10 miles from work three years ago was leaving myself vulnerable and overly dependant on fossil fuels. Rather than have my livelihood at the mercy of supply/demand of gas, I moved. I spent 7bucks in all of August on gas, and most of it is still in the wagon.
Not everybody can move, but choosing where we live and how we get to work often takes too much for granted - like cheap gas - and leaves us at risk if we let it.
You should seat a few people easily in your Legacy. Are there carpool info sites or networks in your area?
-Tom
66 miles round trip. Yeah, it's brutal but at least I don't have to go there every day.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:19 am
by subawhatsubawho
The sale of 3 cylinder geo metros just went up.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:13 am
by evolutionmovement
Another Mad Max reference ...

My dream is a flash boiler steam car with a big ass condenser.

Steve

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:23 am
by Legacy777
Guess I'm going to be getting shit mileage soon too.

Luckily I still have the truck to drive around

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:25 am
by LegacyPunk
Anybody think the rear seats would make a decent makeshift couch??

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:48 am
by isotopeman
How do the Audis have AWD and turbo and still get 30+mpg?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:10 am
by 206er
Im getting the first mk2 jetta turbo diesel I find, and swapping it into a german rabbit. with propane, a turned up pump, straight pipe and 20psi or so would be a damn fun car. oh and the 40mpg while driving like an idiot wouldnt hurt either. 60 mpg driving like a grandma.
also want to try a grease setup.
too bad 1.6TD's are super rare. :cry:

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:10 pm
by entirelyturbo
isotopeman wrote:How do the Audis have AWD and turbo and still get 30+mpg?
The same way I think Toyotas are getting such good mileage: I think they're running lean.

As most may know, Toyotas have had a problem with sludge, and it's not just the old 3.0 V6. I saw an 05 Corolla the other day which had sludged up completely, not quite to the point of seizure but close. Needless to say, the genius that bought it hadn't changed the oil since he bought it (it had 18k miles on it and we told him to fuck himself when he wanted a new engine under warranty), but I'm sure we could get away with running our engines for 20k without changing the oil and we'd still have halfway-decent running engines. I think the reason is that Toyota engines run too hot, and running them lean will of course cause them to run hotter, and by running hotter, you break dino oil down into sludge faster.

I don't know if Audi is doing the same thing, but if they are, they probably get away with no sludge by using synthetic.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:26 am
by xtalman
I'm going to be moving down to Houston in a month or two, and giving up my ~15 mile daily commute in exchange for about ~70 mile commute. One day a week I'll be doing a 180 mile commute. So that's over 450 miles of commuting a week.

I'm going to pull off my roof-rack and rear seat, probably the trailer hitch too, and empty the car of everything unnecessary. I get around 22 mpg in town with all this stuff on it.

Another option I've considered is turning my GS500 bike into a commuter (add a windscreen, change the gearing). Right now I get about 45 mpg in town. I'd also be able to use the HOV lane without penalty. But I think maybe the cost of tires would outweigh any gas savings.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:32 am
by LaureltheQueen
xtalman wrote: I get around 22 mpg in town with all this stuff on it.
How do you possibly get 22 mpg around town in an NA wagon? I had a 91 NA wagon w/ an automatic transmission, that I drove like a prick and consistently got 26mpg. I can personally attest to the fact that I never once replaced the sparkplugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter or anything for at least 45 thousand miles either.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:43 am
by xtalman
LaureltheQueen wrote: How do you possibly get 22 mpg around town in an NA wagon? I had a 91 NA wagon w/ an automatic transmission, that I drove like a prick and consistently got 26mpg. I can personally attest to the fact that I never once replaced the sparkplugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter or anything for at least 45 thousand miles either.
No idea. I'm surprised you got 26 mpg in town, is that normal? Mine's actually a 4 dr FWD sedan with a 5 speed, so it should be a little lighter I think. I don't take it to redline all the time like I used to, either.

I've never replaced the spark plug wires, but everything else is done at the recommended intervals.

I only get 27 mpg out of my Speed Four (600cc engine). I guess I spend too much time in the fun part of the powerband :(

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:03 am
by AWD_addict
evolutionmovement wrote:Get an Australian Ford Falcon with a blower and hijack gas trucks.

Steve
That won't work. It's sand! Noooo!

I think I might bust out the bike to avoid burning dinos.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:08 pm
by evolutionmovement
I can beat 22 with mine running the low compression engine. Ever do a compression check?

Steve

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:11 pm
by xtalman
evolutionmovement wrote:I can beat 22 with mine running the low compression engine. Ever do a compression check?

Steve
No, never tried. I guess I will do that soon.

What's normal around town? I always thought 22 was pretty decent.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:08 pm
by Legacy777
LaureltheQueen wrote:
xtalman wrote: I get around 22 mpg in town with all this stuff on it.
How do you possibly get 22 mpg around town in an NA wagon? I had a 91 NA wagon w/ an automatic transmission, that I drove like a prick and consistently got 26mpg. I can personally attest to the fact that I never once replaced the sparkplugs, wires, air filter, fuel filter or anything for at least 45 thousand miles either.
I didn't get much better with my FWD auto.....

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:16 pm
by Manarius
Legacy777 wrote:I didn't get much better with my FWD auto.....
I pulled into the station today; 116 Miles; 5.6 Gallons. I calculate like 21 MPG. That comes from me racing it one day out of the 6 I drove.