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If you're going to spend that much, get a decent interior. All GM would be out, then (Solstace looks cheap). My boss has a new STS and even that isn't that great. Cobalt is utter trash. Rent one and see. They don't even get good gas mileage (21 mpg vs. the Mazda's 25-27 under the same conditions and while delivering better performance with the exception of some low-end grunt). Calibers can be tough to get with the demand (!) and 172 HP probably doesn't feel like much with the weight it must have. Doubt it handles so hot either.

What about a regular used 3-series or G35? They may be around the $25 range. Mileage probably won't be great.

Maybe a Volvo S40 AWD?

a G35S (sedan) starts at $31k
G35C starts at $33k
if you get the 6MT its 3.5L 298HP V6
for the 6AT its 280hp

but thats $6-8k out of your price range

That's for a new G35. I've seen used sedans in the mid teens, but it's an unsuitable car in terms of mileage anyway.

what about an Audi A3, 2.0L turbo, 200hp $25k

Keep in mind I consider anything above 24mpg to be good

Splinter wrote:Keep in mind I consider anything above 24mpg to be good

Meanwhile, I'm trying to get you up to 35 at least...

caliber srt is FWD. I like the idea of a LEgacy GT. Solstice is a nice looking car, mazdaspeed 6 has some decent incentives on it rihgt now. Mazda rx-8 torqueless freak but still cool looking. then theres always used rex's

So Im thinking about the Legacy GT, 04 RS, or some sort of light truck

It'd be nice to have something to haul around all my car parts in

toyota pickup. they are awesome and you always have TRD parts

monty's legacy wrote:caliber srt is FWD
Mazda rx-8 torqueless freak but still cool looking.

the R/T Caliber is AWD, im not sure how much it wieghs but they arent that big realy, like a wagon

ive heard many complaints about horrible mpg and oil consumption from the RX-8, people getting 20mpg and burning over a quart of oil a month
i think it was Road & Track (or Motor Trend) that had to stop while duing a review on it to add some oil
alot of eletrical problems too

ive never heard a complaint or problem from any Toyota owner, if you want reliable and long lasting, go with a Toyota

Murphy wrote:

monty's legacy wrote:caliber srt is FWD
Mazda rx-8 torqueless freak but still cool looking.

the R/T Caliber is AWD, im not sure how much it wieghs but they arent that big realy, like a wagon

ive heard many complaints about horrible mpg and oil consumption from the RX-8, people getting 20mpg and burning over a quart of oil a month
i think it was Road & Track (or Motor Trend) that had to stop while duing a review on it to add some oil
alot of eletrical problems too

ive never heard a complaint or problem from any Toyota owner, if you want reliable and long lasting, go with a Toyota

ohhhh the r/t caliber, sorryt I thought you were talking about the 300hp Srt-4. yeah I have also heard that about a few Rx8's. also there are scion Tc's. I know about 5 different people with them

Dude. RX-8 = rotary engine. Rotary engine = drinks oil like gas.

Under no circumstances will I buy a neon.

I dont care if its 600hp with a drivers-side ass scratcher. It's still a neon.

would 20k buy an 04 wrx? that or a 2.5RS would be my pick.

I think a WRX might be too much fun

And not very economical. 24mpg would be hard to achieve, if Splinter is worried about having too much fun...

I am dumb, but I just wanna say that in my experience with cars:

Japanese > US in car making.

For example: My brother's ex-girlfriend had a 2005 Ford Escape, brand ne when they bought it off the lot. Several months later they had to take it to the shop for some kind of engine repair (cant remember exactly what but it wasnt just "maintenance" work)

You have to consider the insurance costs too. The hotter the car, the more they stick it in.

If you have any friends that work at dealerships, have them keep an eye out. A friend of mine just got an "04 5 series with 82,000 miles for a little under 10 grand. He has a habit of finding steal deals with their trade ins. His last car was an '02 Maxima that he picked up for a little over 7. He sold it after the suspension went to shit and still made money on it.

I work at a dealership

Im looking at trucks now... Maybe a Tacoma. It'd be nice to have something to tow my Scooby with.

soltice!!!!!!

evolution, go take another look at it. it may be plasticy but its alot better than they were before.

A Tacoma wouldn't be a terrible idea, but mileage would suck with a V6.

and its not exactly a pull rig.

Bah, towing ratings have very little to do with Horsepower, no matter what those idiots with Dodge Rams tell you. It'd do fine for what I think he's talking about.

Towing capacity is listed at 3500
My car weighed in at 2900 with all the interior and everything in

A trailer isnt gonna weight THAT much.

Splinter wrote:Towing capacity is listed at 3500
My car weighed in at 2900 with all the interior and everything in

A trailer isnt gonna weight THAT much.

precisely