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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:03 pm
by vrg3
H3 bulbs are 55 watts. Overwattage bulbs in fog lights are generally a bad idea because they actually make them perform worse.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:30 pm
by smh0101
Hey SubaruNation...

Sure you can get away without a relay... But it will be soooooo much brighter and safer with a relay...

I wired mine without the relay then relayed the whole thing and WHOA!!! It made a huge difference!

So you may want to relay it, for performance and safety.

Thats the same reason many here re-wire the headlights with relays.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:02 pm
by Saskatoon Subaru
vrg3 wrote:H3 bulbs are 55 watts. Overwattage bulbs in fog lights are generally a bad idea because they actually make them perform worse.
they have 100watt H3 bulb's at partsource.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:37 pm
by vrg3
...which you should stay away from if you're selecting fog light bulbs.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:19 am
by Saskatoon Subaru
hmm..........i know i'm missing something here but, i'll ask a dumb question, doesn't a higher watt just mean it will be brighter?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:23 am
by vrg3
Well, it means many things, but, yes, typically it means the bulb will be brighter...

...which is bad for fog lights. Overwattage fog light bulbs increase the glare that fog lights are supposed to be preventing.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:27 am
by Saskatoon Subaru
ok...i feel like i retard but lets continue, so why wouldn't you want a bright bulb/more light?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:41 am
by jamal
Brighter fog lights means you're going to get more glare and reflection and not be able to see as well when you're actually in fog or heavy snow. Kind of like when you turn on the high beams and all you can see is falling snow and not the road in a storm.

If you intend to use the fog lights to augment the low and high beams to see better when it's clear, you should not have gotten fog lights.

Fog lights are for fog and snow and low visibility conditions where you're going very slow. The beam pattern is low and wide and doesn't go very far out in front of the car. Additionally, when it's dark, having all that extra light right in front of your car reduces your vision farther down the road. So yeah, it looks like you can see better, because there's all sorts of light right in front of the car, but you actually can't.

If you want to see better down the road here's my standard list of things to do:

1. aim the headlights properly
2. put in good bulbs (Sylvania xtravision or narva rangepower +50, NOT silverstars)
3. clear the headlight lenses
4. upgrade the headlight wiring harnesses
5. buy some mad tyte edm glass lights (not JDM)
6. put OMG huge driving lights on the front of the car

I've concentrated mostly on step 6.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:05 am
by vrg3
Very nice explanation, jamal.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:07 am
by Saskatoon Subaru
thanks, jamal great explanation.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:33 am
by ripplesouth
That's what mine looks like too except my car is white

Car was a lightly driven ladies car 1990 Subaru Legacy AWD LS Sedan

I'm looking for a bumper with built in fog lamp setup or at least replace the grill with a driving lamp setup.
Saskatoon Subaru wrote:This is my 90 leg, is this the bumper on ur car?
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Re: JDM Bumper Fog light bulb(Finished With Pictures)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:35 am
by ripplesouth
Where may I get that bumper of yours?

Saskatoon Subaru wrote:Ok, so this car of mine was in a crash before i bought it whatever, now the bumper was replaced with what i believe is a jdm Legacy RS bumper not available to USDM,
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now the fog lights are there but were never hooked up. i went to test the lights to make sure they work'd before i wired them in, and well one's burnt out.



So Now for my question, Where can a get a replacement bulb for these fog lights? Thanks in advance

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:46 am
by SubaruNation
good luck,

and smh, wouldn't the lights be brighter w/o the relay?

i still have not done this b/c of the intercooler project.

didja get my pic?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:33 pm
by vrg3
The relay allows you to keep the high-current circuit short, which usually ends up meaning that the lights get more voltage, and so shine brighter.

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:13 pm
by SubaruNation
oh ok cool thanks V!
for some reason i was under the idea that a relay would lessen the voltage the lights would get, and be dimmer.

cool!