wtf? i got beat?

[Brat4by4]

once i get that. ill NEED to go stand alone EM and get a good fuel set up.

If you really want to do it right. Get you EM in and running first. Once you pick up some turbo, you know you'll be tempted to throw it on... then you blow something. Or you could have your car ready to go, already making lots of power. The turbo will just mean a simple re-tune instead of trying to change a bunch of variables at once.

[BXSS]

Dam, things are pretty bad when a all motor 2.0 Honda with basic bolt-ons beats a 2.2l AWD Turbo car.

Honestly I feel SSs are slow cars out of the box, but they have the potential to be interesting sleepers.

[smh0101]

Yup, these cars have potential.

And if someone can launch a FWD properly, AWD isnt much of an advantage... In some cases a disadvantage due to extra weight and driveline loss.

[evolutionmovement]

My fwd used to be about as quick as a turbo car with some decent tires and the right launch. But I never cared about Subarus being fast. I like them because they're tanks, have ground clearance, are hardly affected by weather, and aren't made of steel foil like Hondas - you seldom see them with the rippled panels any Honda that's spent a little time in a parking lot will have. At least that's how Subarus used to be.