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Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:21 pm
by CFK
Ya, just seems like if your gonna spend the $ , that's alot for a measly 2mm. I was hoping to get 22mm front and back. Guess that would be a decent upgrade for an NA car, but an SS already has 18mm.

I know just the bushings alone probably help immensely, but the difference between the stock drop links and those beefy aluminum ones is probably a tremendous difference :!:

Doesn't look like there's really any difference between the stock front droplink's and the aftermarket aluminum ones though. It still states that there for <10/92 though.

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... mber=KLC30

I already bought some sort of similar rear aluminum C-links before I knew they were different to. They just need new Poly, Oh well . They were cheap. Dammit :(

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:23 pm
by SWRT
Yep. Didnt notice you had an SS. That's freakin sweet.
I didnt know their rears were 18mm in the 92's. Were
they the same in the 90-91's? If so, I'm gonna start
looking for one for my wagon if it'll fit.

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:46 pm
by CAV3MAN227
-I just have to say, this is a good thread. Lots of good info here. I am too, curious about upgrading. I've noticed these cars seem to push a lot and I would like to cure some of it, give it a better (neutral) balance.

-Joe

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:40 pm
by Legacy777
SWRT wrote:Yep. Didnt notice you had an SS. That's freakin sweet.
I didnt know their rears were 18mm in the 92's. Were
they the same in the 90-91's? If so, I'm gonna start
looking for one for my wagon if it'll fit.

All the turbo legacies, including the 91 MY had an 18 mm rear anti-sway bar. I bought one and ran it on my car for a while before upgrading to the Whiteline bar. It was an improvement over the non-turbo's 16 mm rear bar.

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:43 pm
by jamal
yep, 18 f/r gives a nice balance. Keeping the bars even or the rear a size larger is a good rule of thumb for setting these cars up.

however, with a rear swaybar we are essentially taking grip away from the rear to balance the car. You want to start by doing everything you can to add grip on the front end. more camber is probably the cheapest and easiest way to do it. After that you need to get an ALK and/or offset top mounts.

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:49 pm
by CAV3MAN227
-So your saying a thicker front swaybar than the rear, is not the way to go?

EDIT: In swaybar removal, what steps should be taken? Should the wheels be off the ground, etc...

-Joe

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:43 am
by jamal
generally not. There are some people who have found that a giant front helps on an auto-x course but that is a unique situation. Equal or a size up in the rear is a better way to go. For the really long version give this a read:

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=34702

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:58 pm
by SWRT
Legacy777 wrote:
SWRT wrote:Yep. Didnt notice you had an SS. That's freakin sweet.
I didnt know their rears were 18mm in the 92's. Were
they the same in the 90-91's? If so, I'm gonna start
looking for one for my wagon if it'll fit.

All the turbo legacies, including the 91 MY had an 18 mm rear anti-sway bar. I bought one and ran it on my car for a while before upgrading to the Whiteline bar. It was an improvement over the non-turbo's 16 mm rear bar.
Wasnt aware of that. I picked up one from a
96 Outback cause I've never even seen an
SS in Florida :/

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:18 pm
by Legacy777
CAV3MAN227 wrote:-EDIT: In swaybar removal, what steps should be taken? Should the wheels be off the ground, etc...

-Joe
Remove the anti-sway bar end links from the anti-sway bar or control arm before raising the wheels off the ground. It'll make things easier.

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:24 pm
by CAV3MAN227
-Thanks for the reply Josh. I just thought about taking them off, cleaning them up and put some fresh paint on them.

-Joe

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:31 pm
by CAV3MAN227
-Not to hi-jack this thread, but to prevent starting another one, here is my rear swaybar, whats the proper way to tell what size it is? Is it aftermarket, stock, or off another car?
Image

-Joe

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:34 pm
by Legacy777
Since it has the older style end links and looks bigger that the non-turbo I'd say it's probably an 18mm rear bar. You can try using a set of calipers to measure the thickness, or you can take a piece of paper and wrap it around the circumference of the bar, measure that and then calculate the diameter based on the that.

The formula is circumference = 2*PI*R

If you rearrange that to solve for diameter you get: diameter = circumference / PI

Re: Sway bar recommendation

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:27 am
by CAV3MAN227
-Okay, thanks for the info!

-Joe