The OFFICIAL Pre-Facelift vs. Post-Facelift Thread!!!

LegacyT · Post by **LegacyT** » Wed May 26, 2004 3:31 pm

The post rear end is all too close to being accused of a 92 Maxima

But it still looks better

Mark,

AWD_addict · Post by **AWD_addict** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:48 pm

The pre looks more individual from other cars, more "Subaru." And the angled tops of the headlights look meaner. Even if they have a weak beam pattern.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed May 26, 2004 10:40 pm

The main problem on the post facelifts is the bumpers. I think the turbos look good - a good five-years or so newer than the prefacelift, but I hate the bumper on the N/A post faclifts. The lights and bumper looks too high and flacid on them. The turbo bumpers are lowered visually and more aggressive. I'd say the post-facelift turbos look more elegant, but I like the more down-to-earth face of the earlier models better.

Steve

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:14 am

omg! admittance!

LaGambaGorda: I'd let you change the oil, but I know you'd show my car the respect you'd show your own (even if I have the uglier front end)

Slowly but surely they're coming to their senses!

totech · Post by **totech** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:48 pm

91White-T wrote:Pre facelift looks more like a Subaru, post looks more like everything else on the road... I like em both though

This would have to be my thoughts too.

I love the uniqueness of the pre's, it has a definite Japanese flavour, and with the Turbo, a bit like a 70's muscle car, bumpy in all the right places, and aggressive.

The post has a more modern look, like many euro cars of the 90's.

I am selling my 91, and have purchased a 93, just because it is newer, and more mechanically sound, not looks at all.

But, I love both the same - My preference would be a 91 T wagon, the great front end, replaced EDM headlights, and wagon styling fixes the oddness in the rear quarter.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:32 pm

The proof is in the pudding. Numbers don't lie

Bosco · Post by **Bosco** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:40 pm

POST POST POST POST!!!

Come on! You KNOW the pre facelift models look like poo! The thing looks pasted together. None of the lines on the front really line up or interact well. Just a bunch of shapes put together.
Looks like a bad patch job from a bodyshop.

Post facelift, They were like "Hey, let's make this car look like it was made by professionals" Instead of looking like a gradeschool project similar to "Pin the headlights and blinkers on the Subie"

Hee..

I'm just F#$King around... I like 'em both I'd take another turbo in Either style depending on the condition. Honestly though, I prefer the post facelift.. Just way cleaner looking lines and looks more "Thought out".

And of course, i'm speaking of the turbo models.

P.S. I LIKE the little notch under the rear triangle windows... It helps to give another totally identifiable mark to the leg sedans, so when people butcher them trying to make them in to a Nissan Skyline or something, you can still identify them.
Ahem...Ahem...<<<clears throat>>>

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:06 am

after reading you post bosco, I think you guys just aren't looking at it from the right angle. Once you do you'll see what looks so geart about it, then you'll start to see the other things, and you'll be like damn, that's hot! If you look at it right, you'll see the face it makes. That's the thing too. Preface look like people or animals or something, and hte post face look like cars. Speaking of not following lines, what's up with the corner light that goes half way to the wheel well?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:21 am

THAWA wrote:Speaking of not following lines, what's up with the corner light that goes half way to the wheel well?

Uh, visibility?

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:25 am

just seeing the light housing doesn't mean much. The lights are about the same distance pre to post, but the housin is just so much longer on the post. I know some of them had reflectors on the side part of it, but not all.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:00 am

The side part behind the lamp is reflective, even on the cars that didn't have the orange there.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:12 am

hmm, I did not know that. still, while looking at a 91 and 92 tonight, I could barely tell the difference as to where the reflection/light was. I could see the 92's blinker much better from 3/4 behind, it definately lights up the whole thing nice any amber.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:29 am

To resurrect this thread, I will give one argument to the post side.

Now that a post-facelift wagon is in the family, and I've seen plenty of pre-facelift wagons, I will say that I prefer the rear styling of the post-facelift wagon over the pre-facelift wagon.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:30 am

Post Facelift is the best.

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:10 pm

Now now.. I do have both types in my driveway, and I must say.. the pre-face has a boxier, more aggressive style to it, IMO. The postfacelift is.. more of a new-aged comfort ride kinda thing.. hard to describe, but the preface looks more hardcore, if equally 'did-up' with a post-face. Although we all know the preface lights suck dick. I wouldn't trade my 92 headlights for anything --except the completed kit I'm working on. (Steve's project, except for postface.

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THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:28 pm

Exactly, preface are hot, postface are not.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:31 pm

The BC doesn't get more attractive than the post-face Turbo.

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:35 pm

This is TrUE!!

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:17 pm

There's a reason there weren't any postface WRC legacys. My conjecture is they're too ugly :\

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:29 pm

Haha, ya, the Impreza had nothing to do with it!

Post, period.

End of thread.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:55 pm

hmm, preface was 89 & 90 postface was 91 & 92. Legacy was rallied from 91-93, yet they used the preface well into the SECOND generation of the legacy.

And no the Impreza didn't have anything to do with it. Subaru wouldn't allow the use of the Impreza in the WRC until the Legacy won a Rally.

Pre for life.

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:09 pm

I have a little story to tell you guys.

One day, in the summer of 1990, a bunch of japanese guys got together to discuss the future of their car company's current flagship, the Legacy. See, the Legacy was no longer going to be the top dawg in their little company, now that a grand tourer sports coupe was in the works, and so the Legacy was going to have to be stripped of some of its panache. Gone was the agressive italian front end, to be replaced by the vegetative look of their previous designs. The upscale chrome accents were done away with too, this was no longer an upscale car. The rear swaybar was removed to squash its once-impeccable handling prowess, and euro headlights were added as a cost-cutting measure.

The once mighty turbo suffered the most, though. Although it got to keep its swaybar, its real performance parts, the LSD and oil cooler, were removed. To add insult to injury, a turbo wagon was introduced, and as anyone in 1991 will tell you, performance and station wagons are mutually exclusive.

And so the japanese guys were able to sweep the Legacy under the rug to introduce the SVX.

All in good fun.

skid542 · Post by **skid542** » Mon May 09, 2005 11:56 pm

I have to say that I like the post face lift in all it's nice chrome glory more than the pre's. The pre's definately look slightly more agressive but the post seem to be more refined to me.

-K- · Post by **-K-** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:39 am

I like both, in turbo trim. If for some reason I had to have a N/A it would be pre.
The headlights look better pre but work better post.
The post rear I like better.
My 93 interior is way better than my 92 or anything pre.

I don't know why you guys have to fight and call names. I'd be happy to own one of each.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:06 am

Because we're immature children, duh!

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The OFFICIAL Pre-Facelift vs. Post-Facelift Thread!!!

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