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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:18 am
by BAC5.2
The IAC is in the way for it to go on that side of the manifold.
You could always get some angle iron, and extend the rearward facing hole out, then rotate the tank 90 degrees, and bolt it to the iron.
The MAIN reason I did the erector set setup was easy. I needed an excuse to get the battery in the trunk, and I needed to maintain enough room to run a 2.5" Stainless Steel pipe through the fender and into the front bumper area.
Plan ahead. If you actually cared enough to take measurements, the pipe will fit EXACTLY where I want it to go, right through my bracket and into the hole in the fender.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:04 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Actually the IAC isn't in the way at all. On the WRX and pretty much every other newer gen Subaru the tank is up by the #1 intake runner. I've seen pictures of someone here that relocated up there, they fabbed a bracket to connect it to the PS pump and it looked real sharp.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:37 pm
by Tleg93
Vikash - who is THE coolest wrote:
Scott, I think I have a connector with wires on it that I can send you. Email me your mailing address. Tomorrow when I have a chance to go visit my car (the coolant tank broke today, yay!) I can get the connector and send it. Consider it reciprocity for the quorn.
Oh, right on, that would be above and beyond but much appreciated all the same. heh, I was just getting ready to go to a local junkyard to try and get one for $15.00, which is ridiculous since a new one costs like 16.80 or something. Every local Subaru dealer I've spoken to says they either don't have one (yeah right) or are unwilling to ruin an entire wiring harness for a single connector and length of wire. This place isn't known for it's generosity. As a side, and off-topic, note there's this thing going on up here where the city has "agents" walking around with a $50.00 in their pocket. If someone greets them in a friendly manner while walking downtown they'll give you the cash. That's how friendly folks are around here. You have to pay people to be nice, what a joke...
Back to the subject. I'll PM you my address. You don't need to reciprocate for the food but I won't stop you

. I'm just glad to be able to share in what I have with those who appreciate it. I think it's cool that Sierra liked it. That sure tells you it's good because coming from her it's not filtered through any pre-formed opinion, it just tastes good.
Return to topic, sorry for the digression.
Oh, I almost forgot I'm gonna put some LED's in the circuit so I can tell if there's a broken wire in the cable

. I just love bells and whistles.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:22 pm
by BAC5.2
Hmm... My WRX tank wouldn't fit on the #3 runner... Between the 90 degree elbow and the IAC valve, there was no way it was going to cleanly fit.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:43 pm
by THAWA
right but its supposed to be infront of the #1
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:52 pm
by BAC5.2
Hmm... on the EJ20T in the WRX, it's on the #3... Sort of off-set on it...
Reguardless, it would go RIGHT where our intake piping is. We don't have our intake running underneath the intake runnners like the WRX, so we have a good bit less room to work with. But we also don't have Intake Tumblers, so that's good.
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:56 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Hmm, I thought I remembered it being further up towards the front then that. I guess I was mistaken (there's always a first

) . Regardless though, a good place to relocate to is next to the PS pump, inbetween it and the ABS unit.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:56 pm
by THAWA
we're thinking of Legacy/Liberty tanks:

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:31 am
by vrg3
Well, I consider that position on the WRX to be analogous to the position on the Liberty, because the WRX's intake manifold is shaped differently.
Anyway, for now I've managed to repair the nipple with epoxy and mount the tank sideways after some monkeying with the hoses. My car runs again. It feels good.
Scott, I didn't make it to the post office before they closed today since I was trying to make my car run so it could carry me there

. I'll mail it tomorrow.
I think the monitor LEDs are a great idea. The signals are TTL, so pick resistors accordingly.
Yeah, that stuff was good. I could definitely tell that it was mushroomish in origin. I'm gonna try cooking some cutlets up Tandoori style when I have a chance.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:12 pm
by Tleg93
vrg3 wrote:I think the monitor LEDs are a great idea. The signals are TTL, so pick resistors accordingly.
Yeah, that stuff was good. I could definitely tell that it was mushroomish in origin. I'm gonna try cooking some cutlets up Tandoori style when I have a chance.
TTL, so 1k 1/4 W pull-ups should do the trick then. I didn't realize they were TTL levels, that's good. I might try and throw something together to build a hardware-based data logger, hmmm.
I'm glad you like the Quorn. Don't forget to try and use the tenders for stir-fry that's where they do the best. I don't know Tandoori but it sounds good.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:29 pm
by vrg3
I just realized something... it depends on the type of driver, no?
A parallel port should have a totem-pole-type output driver, so it shouldn't need a pull-up resistor. You do need to limit the LED current, though, and a 1K resistor would probably be appropriate. Maybe that's what you meant though.
I forget how the ECU's output works... I don't think it's a totem-pole. In fact, it might be an open collector NPN transistor with a pull-up resistor. If it is, then you might need to take the pull-up resistor's value into account. Or you could just try doing the same thing with the 1K resistor and see if the LED's bright enough. Or you could have the LED turn on whenever the signal is low rather than high, but then you need a power source.
Yeah, I'll try stir-frying the tenders like you recommended.
By "tandoori style" I just mean I'll season it like Tandoori chicken. The marinade will have yogurt, onion, garlic, ginger, turmeric, coriander, cumin, etc. And red food coloring, of course.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:53 pm
by Tleg93
vrg3 wrote:I forget how the ECU's output works... I don't think it's a totem-pole. In fact, it might be an open collector NPN transistor with a pull-up resistor. If it is, then you might need to take the pull-up resistor's value into account. Or you could just try doing the same thing with the 1K resistor and see if the LED's bright enough. Or you could have the LED turn on whenever the signal is low rather than high, but then you need a power source.
Oh, I see. I'll have to look at the schematics if I want to do anything elaborate. Umm, what kind of education do you have? I thought it was in software engineering which it probably is but it seems like you also know quite a bit about electronics too.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:00 pm
by vrg3
You'll probably be okay just connecting the LEDs in series with 1K resistors and putting them between the signal lines and ground.
My bachelor's was in computer science with a minor in electrical engineering, and I'm wrapping up a master's in computer graphics with a minor in computer science.
I've just been playing with electronics since I was a little kid. My cousin got me one of those Radio Shack "50-in-1" kits for Christmas:
I got really into it, so I bought the "100-in-1" version a few months later, and he got me the "200-in-1" version on my next birthday, and then the "300-in-1" the following Christmas.

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:02 pm
by THAWA
I wanted one of those so bad! my mom wouldnt buy me one though

I could probably go out and get one today now that you've reminded me about them, but I'm too lazy now

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:06 pm
by vrg3
THAWA, this is the year 2004. You don't
go out to buy this anymore; you buy them online and have them shipped to you!
http://www.hobbytron.net/electronic-lab ... ments.html
I highly recommend starting with the little kits and working up to the bigger ones... it makes it a lot easier to learn if you are very limited at first.
The last two kits I got (the 200-in-1 and 300-in-1) actually had breadboards and a pile of loose components instead of using those spring terminals for everything. Every time I got a new one, I always ended up dismantling the old one and using its pieces.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:13 pm
by THAWA
shipping is lame
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:27 pm
by Tleg93
vrg3 wrote:My bachelor's was in computer science with a minor in electrical engineering, and I'm wrapping up a master's in computer graphics with a minor in computer science.
I've just been playing with electronics since I was a little kid. My cousin got me one of those Radio Shack "50-in-1" kits for Christmas:
Slightly off topic rambling...
Damn! That's a good amount of knowledge. Next to that my BS in electronics and AS in computer automation maintenance looks a little pale

. I'm totally into the fact that you have the computer graphics discipline in there. That sounds very interesting. I've been wanting to get into that for years but there's always somthing else on my plate like my obsession with music and writing. I did start to get into renderware at one point but my source CD broke and they never issued another edition of the book I was using. If you could point me to any good books to get started I'd appreciate it but since I've been getting a lot of favors from you I'd understand if you didn't have the time. But if there's something I could do in return then I wouldn't feel guilty.
Maybe it's time to relocate somewhere where I can get into a better school that offers degrees and classes like that. Here all they have is information technology/computer science. I went to RIT for a couple semesters and they had some good stuff up there but it got too expensive being an out of state student. I need to bolster my knowlede in electronics right about now. I've also been looking into getting a CNA. There's too much to talk about in this thread so I'll just cut it off here.
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:53 pm
by vrg3
Well, now that Matt's gotten what he needed out of the thread, we've gone way off topic anyway.
I'm not familiar with Renderware -- is it a software package you were learning?
Graphics is definitely interesting... I'm not sure I'd recommend Cornell's program for you though. I don't remember if I explained why to you or not, but Matt might be able to explain some.
What kind of stuff do you want to get started with in graphics?
Going back to school is definitely something to consider... I bet if you shopped around and tried, you could get assistantships at a lot of places if you apply to a graduate study program. If you like CS, Cornell's definitely a place I'd suggest you visit and consider. I'd guess that most CS grad students here end up having their tuition paid and maybe get a stipend too in exchange for teaching. Do you like to teach?
CNA? Certified Nursing Assistant?
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:09 pm
by Tleg93
Yeah, sorry I was getting way off topic.
CNA=Certified Netware Administrator
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:45 pm
by georryan
The graphics you learned about Vikash, was that mainly using matrixes and using linear Algebra to understand how to manipulate 3 dimensional objects and the like?
I was soo going to take the computer graphics class for my BS when I was in school, but ended up up not taking it because I felt another elective would be more helpful for me in the long run.
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:59 pm
by georryan
The graphics you learned about Vikash, was that mainly using matrixes and using linear Algebra to understand how to manipulate 3 dimensional objects and the like?
I was soo going to take the computer graphics class for my BS when I was in school, but ended up up not taking it because I felt another elective would be more helpful for me in the long run.
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:01 am
by vrg3
Scott - Ohh.. That makes more sense

. Seriously, though, I think you really should consider going to grad school. Do you like research and/or teaching at all?
georryan - Yes, that's a lot of what computer graphics is... There's also rendering techniques, surface representation, lighting and shading, reflection models, and so forth. It's fun stuff.

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:37 pm
by Tleg93
Well, I don't know if I like teaching too much cuz I've never taught. I don't know much about grad school. Don't you have to get someone to sponsor you or something like that?