Look what followed me home...

[THAWA]

You could've left the steering rack attached at the knuckle though. When you unbolt it from the crossmember it drops down enough to get out of the way.

[Legacy777]

I need to clean the garage up....it's a disaster.

You call that a disaster? You haven't seen what my garage looks like when I take things apart. Yours looks like a lot of parts all organized and categorized. Must be the engineer in you.

The work bench was a disaster, tools everywhere, bushing crap all over everything from cutting them out.....

But yeah.....I need to have parts semi-organized so I know how to put everything back together

[Legacy777]

You could've left the steering rack attached at the knuckle though. When you unbolt it from the crossmember it drops down enough to get out of the way.

I'm changing the tie rod, so I had to take it off. However, with that info, I may decide to leave it connected to the steering u-joint, so I don't have to align everything back up afterwards. At the least, I'll give it a try.

[THAWA]

Oh, you still have to disconnect that. I think though that the shafts have an indent where the bolt threads through, so you can't really misalign something unless you go 360 degrees around. I just unbolted the top one and loosened the bottom one, then slid it down the bottom a bit so it was free from the steering column.

Also, if you haven't done it already, GET A TURBO RADIATOR and have the lower support rewelded. NA radiators are not suited for turbo engines.

[Legacy777]

Thanks for the tip on the steering.

I don't have a turbo radiator. Why do you say n/a radiators are not suited for turbo engines?

And what has to be rewelded on the lower support?

[entirelyturbo]

Aren't VF11's water-cooled? Wouldn't that just be more heat circulating through a radiator that's not made for it?

[THAWA]

That's part of the problem. Then there's the extra heat from the cylinders. If turbo subarus were meant to have radiators the size of NA radiators, they would've came like that from the factory. The radiators aren't that big to begin with. The fans also are not up to snuf for something like this. It's just not a good idea to use an NA radiator on a turbo engine. And you're in texas.

[georryan]

So there's that much room in between the condensor & radiator?

I was going to put something in front of the condensor, but if there's room to put it behind the condensor, then why not.

I need to see how much room I have, and what's available without getting something custom built.

There is only enough room. That is it. It fits snug. I shouldn't have any problems with it moving around. The tranny cooler I got is only .75" in width.

[Legacy777]

That's part of the problem. Then there's the extra heat from the cylinders. If turbo subarus were meant to have radiators the size of NA radiators, they would've came like that from the factory. The radiators aren't that big to begin with. The fans also are not up to snuf for something like this. It's just not a good idea to use an NA radiator on a turbo engine. And you're in texas.

Yes I understand the fact that there is added heat load on the system. I personally feel that the cooling system is over sized, so should be able to handle added heat load. If I find that the fans are always on, and temps are not coming down to where they should be, then yes I will have to do something.

I also plan to run a slightly less then 50/50 mix of antifreeze & water, as well as run water wetter. Both of those things will increase the heat transfer capabilities, and essentially reduce the needed size of the radiator. You'd be amazed at how much reducing the glycol (antifreeze) amount can do for increasing the heat transfer coefficient in order to reduce duty requirements on the radiator.

Have you tried running around with a n/a radiator? I don't recall if you said you were going to try it or not.

[THAWA]

It's been that way since april. NA radiator, turbo engine. It doesn't cut it. The NA radiator is large enough for an NA engine, that's it. THey might be oversized compared to a honda or kia or something with a smaller engine, but for our engines they're just enough to get by in most any situation. I've overheated twice. One time it was over 105 so I had the AC on and I stopped at a fastfood drive thru after being on boost, gauge started to rise, I turned on the heat full blast, it went down. This last time it was evening, probable 80-85 degrees out, I was coming home, wasn't on boost for the past mile or so, stopped at the front of the house for about a minute, drove around the back, and the gauge was real close to pegging. NA radiators just aren't meant to be used on turbo engines. They don't have enough cooling capacity. My fans were always on for MUCH longer than they should've, we're talking about a minute or so when idling after driving around the block when the engine is warmed up. They weren't on forever, but they were on for too long. You can try it if you want to and get away with it for months, but I can tell you how it's eventually going to end up.

[Legacy777]

How old is your n/a radiator?

I'm not hacking up the radiator support. I'll find something that will work.

[THAWA]

A little over a year.

[Legacy777]

So it should be in pretty good condition if it's only a year old.

[Legacy777]

It's getting very close.

Everything's pretty much together on the engine except the ac compressor, engine mounts & flywheel.

I ran into issues with trying to press the busings in the front control arms.....so that's going to put a delay in things. I'm not sure I want to try putting the motor in with the car on jack stands.

Also, the diamond coil pack I have is skinnier then the one that was originally on there. So the bolts don't tighten down all the way. The old one had metal plates attached to the coil pack. I fabricated two plates/shims to raise the coil pack up a little.

Lastly I took a crescent wrench and bent the bumper fins to give me more room for an intercooler radiator. I'm going to try and get them flat tomorrow, but what you can see in the pictures took about 3 minutes with a crescent wrench. Just slip it over the tabs, and pull the wrench back towards the bumper beam.

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... s/ej22t/23

[Legacy777]

Engine is finally in the car!
http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... /ej22t/29/

It's been a snail's pace getting this engine in. But with all the crap I got going on, I guess I shouldn't complain. I'm shooting for the end of October to have the car running, but we'll see.

[dzx]

When you had problems with the coilpack, why didn't you just use shorter screws?

Installation looks pretty badass, congratulations. What turbo is that?

[Legacy777]

I used the shorter screws out of the bunch, but they still were too long. I suppose I could've gone to the store, but where's the fun in that

That's the stock turbo.

[1-3-2-4]

Sweet Legacy777, I was hoping you had more then just the engine on the Truck pictures!

[Legacy777]

yeah....there's plenty of pictures....I'm a picture whore.

[1-3-2-4]

yeah....there's plenty of pictures....I'm a picture whore.

lol nothing wrong with that

btw this is Subaruimpreza_Power

[Legacy777]

Hey man, how's it going. Glad to see ya on the bbs

[1-3-2-4]

Hey man, how's it going. Glad to see ya on the bbs

pretty good, less stressful here, I'm sure you know what I mean about that

I've come here to see about the EJ22T which was in a 94 Legacy which would be the first Subaru I rode in.

lol ever since 1994 I wanted a Subaru heh now I have two.

I made a post over at the Conversion fourm at NASIOC and boy it got out of hand... with most saying the EJ22T is crap and such on.


for a EJ22T with 161k do I have to do a teardown of the engine?

[vrg3]

I made a post over at the Conversion fourm at NASIOC and boy it got out of hand... with most saying the EJ22T is crap and such on.

Hehe, there they say the EJ22T is crap and here we're resentful that you're stealing an EJ22T from a Legacy.

for a EJ22T with 161k do I have to do a teardown of the engine?

You don't have to -- these engines are very sturdy and long-lived -- but I were you and had the engine out of the car anyway, I'd probably want to at least pop the heads off to take a look inside when doing the cambelt/crank seal/cam seals/water pump job.

[1-3-2-4]

Yeah that will be looked at for sure, I don't expect carbon build up to be a problem, but if it is what can I clean it with?



Anyone know the size socket I need for the heads?

[Legacy777]

I'll tell you from my experience, I'm glad I tore it down. Some have tore them down and said they were fine. Mine was had some stuff that was definitely worn a little. Would the motor have been fine to stick in the car as is.....probably......but I just can't do that