Glass headlamps

123c · Post by **123c** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 3:45 am

I am interested in getting the Euro Spec setup on my car. I will also do a little research and see what I can find. I sort of have a connection in Germany who most likely can find the parts, or have the right connections who can find the parts, he just doesn't have that much spare time because he has a bunch of his own projects going on...

eastbaysubaru · Post by **eastbaysubaru** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:01 am

I've got family(soon to be

) in Germany as well. I'm not sure they'd be down to go scour junkyards for parts, but one of them will be my brother in law. I might be able to talk him into digging around for parts.

-Brian

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:23 am

georryan - The only thing you can really do with an RHD lamp to avoid blinding everyone and still being able to see would be to block off the upward rising part of the beam with an opaque blocker on the lens. But then you still wouldn't have that rising portion which is one of the E-code lamp's good strengths...

123c - Realize that your 1993 Legacy already has an ECE-style beam pattern (they're harmonized DOT/ECE lamps). I don't know if Subaru really used vastly different optics in the US and in Europe, but it's quite possible that the only difference would be that the lenses would be glass rather than plastic.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:46 am

georryan - The only thing you can really do with an RHD lamp to avoid blinding everyone and still being able to see would be to block off the upward rising part of the beam with an opaque blocker on the lens. But then you still wouldn't have that rising portion which is one of the E-code lamp's good strengths...

Yeah I figured that much, but the glass lamps that Josh is looking at is LHD lights.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:49 am

georryan wrote:Yeah I figured that much, but the glass lamps that Josh is looking at is LHD lights.

Yeah, I just thought I'd mention it since you mentioned a "lens cover" or whatever.

By the way, I do believe the state of Washington permits ECE headlamps, so they'd be legal there.

123c · Post by **123c** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:00 pm

vrg3 wrote:123c - Realize that your 1993 Legacy already has an ECE-style beam pattern (they're harmonized DOT/ECE lamps). I don't know if Subaru really used vastly different optics in the US and in Europe, but it's quite possible that the only difference would be that the lenses would be glass rather than plastic.

I already know that I have the ECE-style beam patern, and that is the good one

, I just want something even better if I can get it. There should be some slight differences if the lenses are glass instead of plastic, that would also mean that they have better quality reflectors. The only down side to having the glass is that it will crack easily.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:18 pm

It's possible that the reflectors would be better (metal rather than glass, for example), but not certain by any means; Subaru could have used the exact same reflectors as in your car.

If the reflectors are metal, though, then that would be great news for those of us who want to use overwattage bulbs. Metal reflectors and glass lenses are good at handling heat, while plastic ones are not. And the ECE beam pattern responds very well to overwattage bulbs, unlike the DOT patterns.

totech · Post by **totech** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:51 pm

Let me check my broken ones at home - but I am sure they are metal.

Kinda neat - it is lots of parts.

Post by **Legacy777** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:29 pm

Other thing you need to remember.....I have a 90 legacy, aka super crappy bulb/beam pattern.

totech · Post by **totech** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:39 am

pics of jdm stuff - albeit broken

Lens IS Plastic - just chromed plastic

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:44 am

Sigh... too bad... that probably means the 92-94 glass-lens lights will have the same reflectors as the plastic-lens ones.

totech · Post by **totech** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:55 am

Installed..

Excuse the poor paint - that will be remedied next month if my contract gets renewed

totech · Post by **totech** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:56 am

And I can clearly see where the cutoff has to be covered.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:43 am

So what all did you go through to get those?

HomeSlice · Post by **HomeSlice** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:21 pm

i love jdm goodies

totech · Post by **totech** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:37 pm

So what all did you go through to get those?

About 2 years of scanning through Yahoo Japan auctions and babelfish.

For what I eventually paid after several broken ones, I could have replaced them all with new USDM twice

But I do get the "different" bonus

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:19 pm

Those headlights have two bulbs in them? Do the corner lenses also have two bulbs?? What is the functionality of the two headlight bulbs? You'll need to change the wiring won't you?

Sorry if this was already discussed, I confess I didnt check.

-Ryan

totech · Post by **totech** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:53 pm

Headlights have two bulbs - main headlight - H4, and city light, small clear incandescent bulb - similar to what we have in the corner light

Corner light has two bulbs - 1156 in front and 194 in side - both are wired together to blink.

georryan · Post by **georryan** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:22 pm

Oh, cool.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:34 pm

anybody have any updates on this?

Post by **Legacy777** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:21 pm

I think any "group" thing is pretty much dead......if you really want them, there are ways of getting them.....

more info to follow later....

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 4:41 am

k, ill be waiting

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