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Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to boost
my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and exhaust,
what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time ago,
and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?


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Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
injectors.

I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you will
get great performance from a cam.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
boost
> my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and exhaust,
> what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time ago,
> and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?


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I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air intake,
and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.

However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near enough
power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
cooler on later in the year!
George, Australia.


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
wrote:
> Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> injectors.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you will
> get great performance from a cam.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> boost
> > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
exhaust,
> > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
ago,
> > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?


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We have done one SVX into Legacy conversion and it is difficult,
expensive and has a few drawbacks like jacking up the engine to change
plugs and being hard to work on in general.
AL(CO)



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
boost
> my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and exhaust,
> what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time ago,
> and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?


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What was the output like?

-----Original Message-----
From: milehial2000 [mailto:acroxford@hypermall.net]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:28 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power


We have done one SVX into Legacy conversion and it is difficult,
expensive and has a few drawbacks like jacking up the engine to change
plugs and being hard to work on in general.
AL(CO)



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
boost
> my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and exhaust,
> what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time ago,
> and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?



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Very impressive as we had a supercharger from Mazda Millenia mounted
to the engine. The drawback here was that the Legacy didn't have the
sound deadening that the Mazda had and you could hear it coming a long
ways away. We eventually took the supercharger off because of the
sound problems and SC control troubles and the car really was
pretty quick even without the SC. I have a few pictures around and the
last time I talked to the owner he was thinking of selling it if
anyone is interested. It is a wagon in good condition.
AL(CO)


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Sam & Beth Barrett" <LEVATHIAN@s...>
wrote:
> What was the output like?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: milehial2000 [mailto:acroxford@h...]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:28 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
>
> We have done one SVX into Legacy conversion and it is difficult,
> expensive and has a few drawbacks like jacking up the engine to
change
> plugs and being hard to work on in general.
> AL(CO)
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> boost
> > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and exhaust,
> > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time ago,
> > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
>
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Alcohol & Water injection will give you a huge boost, especially in
top end power. I had a group A crank shaft & uprated conrod bolts
balanced and blue printed and that also made a huge difference

Plus I am in the process of converting my N/A legacy to Turbo.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "georgerbyrne" <georgerbyrne@y...>
wrote:
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-
mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.



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How much did the Alcohol and water injection set you back, pricewise?
Is it hard to set up?
Are there cheap methods of setting this up?
Thanks, George, Australia.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
wrote:
> Alcohol & Water injection will give you a huge boost, especially in
> top end power. I had a group A crank shaft & uprated conrod bolts
> balanced and blue printed and that also made a huge difference
>
> Plus I am in the process of converting my N/A legacy to Turbo.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "georgerbyrne" <georgerbyrne@y...>
> wrote:
> > I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> > along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> > compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
> intake,
> > and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> > Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> > Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
> >
> > However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
> enough
> > power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-
> mount
> > cooler on later in the year!
> > George, Australia.


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I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.

-----Original Message-----
From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power

I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air intake,
and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.

However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near enough
power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
cooler on later in the year!
George, Australia.


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
wrote:
> Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> injectors.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you will
> get great performance from a cam.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...> wrote:
> > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> boost
> > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
exhaust,
> > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and pistons,
> > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
ago,
> > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?


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As in they dissintegrated??

OUCH! Mine have been fine, it wasn't a huge grind. And for the next
1000km i didn't rev above 3500rpm!
They are good now, lumpier exhaust note too ;D
George, Australia.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Douglas Hancock" <douglashancock@o...>
wrote:
> I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> > ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> > injectors.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you
will
> > get great performance from a cam.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...>
wrote:
> > > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> > boost
> > > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
> exhaust,
> > > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and
pistons,
> > > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
> ago,
> > > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
>
>
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As in they dissintegrated??

OUCH! Mine have been fine, it wasn't a huge grind. And for the next
1000km i didn't rev above 3500rpm!
They are good now, lumpier exhaust note too ;D
George, Australia.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Douglas Hancock" <douglashancock@o...>
wrote:
> I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> > ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> > injectors.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you
will
> > get great performance from a cam.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...>
wrote:
> > > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> > boost
> > > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
> exhaust,
> > > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and
pistons,
> > > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
> ago,
> > > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
>
>
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As in they dissintegrated??

OUCH! Mine have been fine, it wasn't a huge grind. And for the next
1000km i didn't rev above 3500rpm!
They are good now, lumpier exhaust note too ;D
George, Australia.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Douglas Hancock" <douglashancock@o...>
wrote:
> I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> > ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> > injectors.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you
will
> > get great performance from a cam.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...>
wrote:
> > > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> > boost
> > > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
> exhaust,
> > > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and
pistons,
> > > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
> ago,
> > > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
>
>
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Yeh I read a mag article. It was in Zoom so I should be able to find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 9:32 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power

As in they dissintegrated??

OUCH! Mine have been fine, it wasn't a huge grind. And for the next
1000km i didn't rev above 3500rpm!
They are good now, lumpier exhaust note too ;D
George, Australia.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Douglas Hancock" <douglashancock@o...>
wrote:
> I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> > ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> > injectors.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you
will
> > get great performance from a cam.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...>
wrote:
> > > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> > boost
> > > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
> exhaust,
> > > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and
pistons,
> > > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
> ago,
> > > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
>
>
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Cheap, all you need is a water washer bottle with pump. Cooper pipe
to run around header pipes to heat water & alcohol, an injector from
a wreckers yard, wire the injector to say injector 1 on your car. Get
a microswitch to switch the injector on at say full throttle.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "georgerbyrne" <georgerbyrne@y...>
wrote:
> How much did the Alcohol and water injection set you back,
pricewise?
> Is it hard to set up?
> Are there cheap methods of setting this up?
> Thanks, George, Australia.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection will give you a huge boost, especially
in
> > top end power. I had a group A crank shaft & uprated conrod bolts
> > balanced and blue printed and that also made a huge difference
> >
> > Plus I am in the process of converting my N/A legacy to Turbo.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "georgerbyrne" <georgerbyrne@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and
that
> > > along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> > > compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
> > intake,
> > > and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made
my
> > > Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> > > Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
> > >
> > > However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
> > enough
> > > power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-
> > mount
> > > cooler on later in the year!
> > > George, Australia.


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We have a company in NZ that builds up cams for about $250, because
they are built up you don't need to change shims or anything else in
the heads. He does this professionally for race teams all around the
world.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Douglas Hancock" <douglashancock@o...>
wrote:
> I have seen reground cam become nothing. Buy the cams in stead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: georgerbyrne [mailto:georgerbyrne@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2002 11:23 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: N/A Power
>
> I have had my cams reground to a stage 3 Road/Race spec, and that
> along with custom exhaust, ported and polished heads, higher
> compression, modified throttle body, pod filter with cold air
intake,
> and a lightened flywheel with an uprated WRX clutch have made my
> Naturally Aspirated liberty move alot better!
> Getting some new 8mm leads this week too.
>
> However, after all of this, i don't think it has anywhere near
enough
> power, and so i will be bolting a rather large turbo and front-mount
> cooler on later in the year!
> George, Australia.
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "subman2001nz" <daniel.wilson@d...>
> wrote:
> > Alcohol & Water injection, 62mm throttle body, flow your exhaust
> > ports on the block and match with the manifold, slightly larger
> > injectors.
> >
> > I wouldn't worry too much about pistons at this stage, but you
will
> > get great performance from a cam.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "shemeryahu" <shemaryahu@c...>
wrote:
> > > Now that I have my suspenstion complete, I'm looking at ways to
> > boost
> > > my power without forced induction. Aside from intake and
> exhaust,
> > > what are my other options? I know where to get cams and
pistons,
> > > flywheels, etc. I mentioned an SVX engine swap a LOOONG time
> ago,
> > > and that's still an option, I think. Any suggestions?
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