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I am looking at wheels right now, and I was hoping for some opinions.

The main contenders are the Rota Subzero's (in 17x7.5), and the Enkei RSF-2's (17x7).

Both have their pluses and minuses.

For the sub-zero's it's the terminating spokes instead of just running into the lip.

The Eneki's it's the universal bolt pattern (5x100/5x114.3).

What is the ideal off-set for our cars? The Enkei's only come in +40. The Sub-zero's are +48.

Also, opinions on color. The Enkei's only come in silver, the Rota's come in 10,000 different colors. I was thinking about the Bronze rims, but I haven't decided.

Is a 7.5" rim to wide for a 215 width tire?

Here are the Rota's:



Enkei RSF2's:



Let me know what you guys think!

Art had enkei's very similar to those on his last car, they were beautiful, I vote those, and I dont like bronze.

What other color would you suggest?

http://www.subydude.com/parts/wheels.php#subzero

I really like the Enkei's except for the multi-lug deal. But I don't know how much they weigh (which is an important deciding factor).

I am also kind of considering the RSF1's by Enkei. 17x7.5, +48 offset, 15.2 pounds. Silver only.

just get a set of prodrives and be done with it.

lol, all 4 rims cost about the same as 2 Prodrives.

7.5" is fine for 215, i run 205 on my 7.5" wheels. I had the 17x7.5 subzeros in silver, they looked good, and i liked them.
MK

Do you have any pictures from when you had the Sub Zero's?

They are winning until I see the Enkei's in person.

I have the bronze sub zero's on my ss now. I'll try to get a pic up soon. just got to host it on my site first. I have the gold rpf1's on the sti. I love gold. no other color for me. the sub zero's look nice imho. but they are not very strong. the enki's on the other hand are much stronger and I like the looks. plus I have found them to be the easiest wheels that I have ever washed.
you can get them in a 5x100 in a 48 offset. the down side as of now they are not hubcentric. so you use rings. I still don't have mine and have been using them for about a month with no rings. no vibvration at all. you wont have vibration as long as they are balanced correctly. let me know if you need something I can get you the enki's or others. I do not sell the rota's.
but may be selling my used ones some day.

Can you get me pics of both the SS and the STi?

Have you broken a Rota rim? Not sure what you mean by not being hubcentric, can you elaborate?

no I have not broken a rota rim. but other people have. the pictures are quite scary. the entire inner spokes pretty much break all apart.
but they say that they have updated them since these mishaps. but for what it is worth I have never broken a rota rim. I have pics. I don't have them hosted so I can't psot them here yet. I could maybe post them somewhere else any provide a link for now. I think iclub still allows you to attatch pics. but maybe not. most sites seem to be getting away from that. I will be working on my site this week so I will be able to host them soon.
hub centric, I'm sorrie I thought this was a common term. I actually looked it up in the dictionary and it may not be a real word. oh well.
basically what I mean is that the center of the wheel (the part that fits around the hub on the car is bigger and does not fit flush so they make rings that fit inside that part of the wheel and fits flush with the hub.
so when you install the wheels you just got to line it up right.
let me know if you that makes sense to you. I can try to explain it in another way.

Makes perfect sense. I've never heard the term hubcentric used to describe that before.

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MK

Those are 17's!? DAMN! They look like 18's!

hey another mac user. don't you love mac's mkl

The rims I had were 17x7 Enkei 5+

They're silver painted, with a machined face. VERY attractive, especially at freeway speed. Your brake rotors are clearly visible. . . it's as if the spokes completely disappear at that speed, and all you see is the hub and the lip.

Here's a picture or three:



Old sig. . .

as far as your question as far as what is the ideal offset. I have found that an offet between 51-53 seems to work the best. 48's work fine most of the time,

I don't know about strength issues and stuff but I like the look of the Rotas better.

kelley wrote:hey another mac user. don't you love mac's mkl

damn right!

MK

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Macs RULE!

Back to the original subject:
Take a look at some of the other Enkei wheels in the High Performance Line. The RPF1 has excellent strength for it's weight (I'd definitely trust it more thatn any Rota) and they're coming out with some really nice designs (on the left column of this link: http://www.enkei.co.jp/en/p_wheels.html

The RS+M is REALLY nice (looks like a Prodrive wheel) and very high quality. Keep in mind, Enkei produces most of the OEM wheels found on just about every car and has been around since the '60's.

-B

mTk wrote:

kelley wrote:hey another mac user. don't you love mac's mkl

damn right!

MK

Were those 17" or 18" Subzero's?

17"

MK

this maybe a bit off topic but i was down at my local wheel shop and their offset chart said that for our body style the stock offset is 35 and that anything 40 on up should work (without sticking out like a lowrider) until about fifty when the wheel depending on width would rub against the strut. these guys set up the wheels for my civic and they were perfect in that when the car just sat there the wheel looked fulsh with the outside fender but they didnt rub at all on bumps or anything. this is just a deciding factor for me maybe some you you like your rims tucked a bit more. but if any of the experienced would like to coment that would be great

I just saw this thread...

BAC5.2 wrote:lol, all 4 rims cost about the same as 2 Prodrives.

Not if you have connections. I know someone who can probably get 4 Prodrives for about the same as a SubZero wheel/tire package

azn2nr - Your local wheel shop has an incorrect offset chart. Stock offset is more than +50mm. An offset of +35mm is likely to cause rubbing of the fender.