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Cranks but wont start. Coilpack?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:49 am
by TheShocker
My suspision is the coil pack. I just need this confirmed before I try and find a Diamond coil pack to replace it.
The engine cranks and cranks, but never stars. Every now and then for the last few weeks I would get a little "sputter" like the car died but then kept running. Or sometimes I would start it up, and then it would run for a second or so and then shut off. I could always get it to start again though.
Coilpack? Or something else...? If it is the coilpack, maybe somone could help me find a Diamond to replace it.
Thanks!
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:59 pm
by vrg3
Can you check whether or not it's sparking?
One at a time, remove each plug wire and put an old spark plug in it, lying on some metal of the engine block or intake manifold (someplace a spark won't cause problems). As you crank it, you should see sparks across the plug gap.
Does your car never start? Or does it just sometimes go into this state where it won't start?
Do you know when your fuel filter was last changed?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:26 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Sounds more like a fueling problem to me. Maybe the fuel pump? Or maybe the fuel filter is really old and clogged up?
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:36 pm
by Legacy777
You should check the coil pack
http://main.experiencetherave.com:8080/ ... cktest.jpg
also, try what vrg3 mentioned.
if you have spark, and the tests from the fsm are ok, it's probably not the coil pack.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:43 pm
by TheShocker
vrg3 wrote:
Does your car never start? Or does it just sometimes go into this state where it won't start?
Do you know when your fuel filter was last changed?
This is the first time this has happened. The car has always started no problem. I dont know for sure when the fuel filter was last replaced, but I do know that the previous owner took really good care of the car, doing all scheduled maintanence. So I assume the fuel filter has been replaced at some point. I dont think it's the fuel filter though, given that the car has always started up fine.
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:58 pm
by vrg3
So the car was working fine for a long time, and then one day it just stopped?
Or now does it sometimes work and sometimes not?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:04 pm
by TheShocker
vrg3 wrote:So the car was working fine for a long time, and then one day it just stopped?
Yes, It was running great and now does not start at all.
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:04 pm
by vrg3
Soo... what were the results of the test for sparking?
Also, if a friend cranks and you listen through a stethoscope or through the handle of a long screwdriver, can you hear the injectors clicking open and shut?
And when you first turn the ignition on, can you hear the fuel pump prime at all?
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:15 am
by omegax
well if it turns out to be the coil pack i got one

diamond type

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:06 am
by TheShocker
Hey guys. Since I couldnt find a working voltometer, I decided to go out on a limb and just buy a new coilpack. So, now I have a brand spankin' new Diamond coil pack (got it for $70 with friend's discount).
Well, turns out it wasn't the problem. Car still wont start. Cranks, but doesnt start.
On goes the investigation...
Ignitor? Fuel pump? Is there a fuel pump relay (like my honda has) that can go bad?
DAMMIT!!!
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:21 am
by legacy92ej22t
I'd probably check for spark at the plugs (spark it off the block or something if you have to), then if that showed spark is present I'd start troubleshooting the fuel system. It still sounds like a fueling problem to me.
Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:15 am
by TheShocker
Ok I CAN hear the fuel pump prime up. So it's not that...
I'm going to do the spark test ASAP and I'll post the results.
Been super busy lately..... and it sucks. No time.
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:20 am
by TheShocker
Well guys.......... she runs!!!!
Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:50 am
by LegacyPunk
Did you find the culprit?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:48 pm
by TheShocker
I guess it was the coilpack. I'm not sure why it didn't start after I replaced it though. I went through and made sure all my connections in the engine bay were solid, made sure all the fuses were solid...kind of just checked everything over. Then I did a spark test, and not only did it spark but she started right up on 3 cylinders. Oh well, I'm happy.
-Seth
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:55 pm
by vrg3
If you tried starting it shortly before changing the coil pack, the engine may have been flooded which could have kept it from starting up right away.
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:52 am
by legacy92ej22t
Ahh, sweet. Glad to hear shes runnin' again.

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:51 am
by TheShocker
Thanks guys
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 7:41 am
by TheShocker
Hmmmmmmm
Well I was driving the car last night and she died on me. Just stalled. Now she wont start again......
GRRRRRRRRRRR
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:48 pm
by TheShocker
anyone?
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:45 pm
by georryan
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... =back+seat
I know you heard the pump prime in one of your posts, but have you checked this? I was having a similar problem, although I don't think I heard the pump prime when it wasn't running. It would cut out while driving, though. It wouldnt hurt to look at those connectors, they are easy to get to.
When mine died it was a matter of someone bouncing on the back seat to get it running again, it was very touchy.
-Ryan