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Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:10 am**

I had been having problems with my heel-toe technique, like I sucked at it, and I was getting frustrated. Anyways, I was watching a Camel GT race on ABC last Saturday and they had an in-car camera underneath the driver seat of a GT2 car (Porche 911 RSR) and it showed a whole lap of just his feet while he was driving. So I was watching his heel-toe technique and it just clicked! I went for a drive and it was like I had always been a master, I'm stoked. Anyways, thanks to ABC and the driver for the best, most informative 5 minutes of motor sports coverage ever!

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:14 am**

lol, could have asked me man.

I haven't done much heel toeing since I got the new flywheel and clutch, but that's because the car hasn't been running.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:39 am**

Hehe, ya, well I could do it before, I just wasn't real good at it and it felt really akward. Now I'm fast and smooth at it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:00 am**

Nice, maybe you'll have to give me some tips next time. I can't do it in the truck (pedals are WAY to off) so I haven't practiced in about 2 weeks.

I can't do it when I make a concerted effort to do it. I can only do it when I am looking at the turns and letting instinct drive the pedals, stick, and wheel.

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 5:57 pm**

You and your wonderful hydraulic clutches

I taught myself to heel-toe/double-clutch in my Legacy, that's why I think the throwout bearing came off the clutch fork. I do it more sparingly now.

It definitely impresses passengers though

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:42 pm**

I heel and toe every day the car's not BLOWN UP whenevr I corner or downshift. The alloy pedal covers help since I can position them to optimal orientation to each other.

Steve

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:55 pm**

I tried heel-toeing, but then i realized tossing around size 15's doesnt work too well

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:59 pm**

15's ? Damn, them be some big feet!

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:07 pm**

You know what they say about guys with big feet!

They say it's hard to find shoes that fit! And it's true too. :\

Posted: **Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:35 pm**

big shoes

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 12:32 am**

Stand easy in strong winds.

Steve

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:02 am**

I see noone saw my micro message

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:07 am**

They say it's hard to find shoes that fit!

that was more trouble than it was worth.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:22 am**

but true.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:17 am**

Heel-toeing to shoe sizes, unbelievable

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:22 am**

is it not related?

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:05 am**

There is another size related issue this can relate to as well

Big socks!

Andrew

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:08 pm**

I can do it with my 12's. No problems.

It's got a lot to do with shoe choice. I can't heel-toe or even drive smoothly in my trail shoes. They are to stiff to get good pedal feel. I am fluid when I am in my New Balances.

Coming up are a set of Puma Speedkats. They should REALLY help pedal feel. I like having my toe area conform around the brake pedal easily. It allows more of a progressive pedal push while getting your heel even closer to the gas pedal. I enjoy the fact that the brake pedals in our cars travel so far too. Gas and brake are no more than even under any braking where heel-toeing is an acceptable practice.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:46 pm**

I got a size 13 here. It's hard as hell to do any left foot braking, let alone heel-toeing. I'm sure it would help with driving shoes, but I've yet to throw down the cash for those yet. Skate shoes seem to work fairly well for me now.

-Brian

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:54 pm**

BAC5.2 wrote:I can do it with my 12's. No problems.

It's got a lot to do with shoe choice. I can't heel-toe or even drive smoothly in my trail shoes. They are to stiff to get good pedal feel. I am fluid when I am in my New Balances.

I agree, shoe choice is important.

Coming up are a set of Puma Speedkats. They should REALLY help pedal feel. I like having my toe area conform around the brake pedal easily. It allows more of a progressive pedal push while getting your heel even closer to the gas pedal. I enjoy the fact that the brake pedals in our cars travel so far too. Gas and brake are no more than even under any braking where heel-toeing is an acceptable practice.

Ya, are these the ones that kinda look like a low top wrestling shoe? My friends wife just got a pair and I actually amde a comment about how they'd make a great driving shoe for heel toeing!

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:05 pm**

I've got some Adidas indoor socccer shoes. They're great; lots of pedal feel. Good for hackey sack too.

Only problem is that the back of the heel leather is wearing thin for some reason, i think from rubbing against the tranny tunnel.

Posted: **Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:28 pm**

I totally agree, I feel more nimble without shoes, but I dont like to drive without em

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:36 am**

Without shoes isn't good for me. My feet slip off the pedals, and I don't like that, lol.

Yea Matt, the Speedkats are the "wrestling shoe" shoe.

I am gonna order a pair soon. Black and yellow. Oh yea.

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:21 am**

I'm glad I'm size 11, then - just right. Too small's no good, but too big also has its drawbacks and is mainly only good for show.

Steve

Posted: **Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:24 pm**

...or for supporting a taller person, your feet are related to how tall you are, and pretty much every other appendage of your body. I swear I was supposed to be taller than I am. I think all this manual labor made me shorter though

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