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Good find @ Allstar imports

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:49 pm
by dzx
A friend of mine runs allstar imports in Denver, while down there running some errands the other day I came across some 17" prodrive rims with some Z rated Toyo tires. I picked up all four rims and tires for $500, one tire needed to be replaced because of a big slash across it. Went to a tire store in Denver and they quoted it as $180 dollars. Ended up picking one up in boulder for $160. Went home and put the tire on the rim then changed the wheels and tested the car out on Magnolia in the canyon where i live, the car corners extremely well, ride is a lot harder I guess because the tires are stiff as all hell, and the acceleration is noticeably slower, But i think they look pretty good and were a great find. I'll post pics when I have some time off work. For now, here is what the rims look like. http://www.bigwheels.net/wheel_view.jsp ... odel=GC-07

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:00 pm
by dzx
nevermind, they are Prodrive 7 by Speedline rims, still look pretty good tho.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:34 pm
by QuickDrive
nivr ginf.

^^^

That means Nice find... but with your fingers on the wrong keys..

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:37 pm
by vrg3
Cool.

Did you have the new tire shaved down to match the old tires?

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:49 pm
by BAC5.2
What size tire?

I didn't notice any significant decline in acceleration when I went with the slightly larger WRX wheels/tires.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:53 pm
by mTk
It's probably more of the weight issue than size.

MK

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:56 pm
by BAC5.2
Nah, the Prodrive GC-07's are pretty light. Like 17 pounds for a 17" rim. Aren't the stock Turbo wheels like 16.5lbs or something?

I didn't notice any real difference between my wrx wheels/tires and the gram lights I test fitted. But then again, those are Gram Lights.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:58 pm
by vrg3
The difference in rotational moment of inertia's bigger than the difference in weight though.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:59 pm
by mTk
what vrg said. The weight's all around the outside edge of the wheels, making it harder to rotate them. I swear this has been mentioned in every wheel thread... :)

MK

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:14 pm
by BAC5.2
True, that's why a 17lb 16" rim will be "faster" than a 17lb 17" rim.

I'm just surprised that the acceleration difference is significant. Espically since Toyo tires are pretty light. The whole setup probably weighs the same as a WRX/RE92 combo and has the same overall outside diameter. A slight decrease in acceleration, but unlikely to be THAT noticable.

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:32 pm
by vrg3
Maybe the stickier Toyos have a higher rolling resistance?

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:11 am
by dzx
the reason why there was a massive decrease in acceleration is because they are actually speedline prodrive 7 rims which weigh a massive 20 lbs, completely neutralizing my lighweight flywheel. They look really nice so i'll keep them on at least until i get my transmission fixed since i can't race anyway, but im more into performance so i'll probably try to sell them and my old bmw and try to get some lightweight rims. They are 17's.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:36 am
by legacy92ej22t
The oem 16" wrx wheels are lighter then the oem 15" turbo Legacy wheels. That said, I can still notice a difference in acceleration between the two. The Legacy wheels being faster. I have to say though that the OEM RE92's on the 16" wrx wheels are 205/55R16 which is bigger then the oem Legacy 195/60R15. When I get new tires I'll be getting 205/50R16 so that will really be the deciding factor as to which is faster.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:10 am
by BAC5.2
20 pounds!? JESUS! That's ridiculous!

The REAL GC-07's are 15.2lbs in the 17x7.5 size.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:31 am
by dzx
Each Toyo T1S weighs about 20 lbs as well, making each wheel around 41-42 lbs

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:43 am
by BAC5.2
Oh my God! That is WAY to heavy. Get rid of those. No rim should EVER weigh more than 18 pounds.