Think I have enough Subaru stuff?
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:53 pm
This isn't everything either, I picked up quite a few brochures when I test-drove the Outback...
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:07 pm
Irecognize that next to last brochure.
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:29 pm
no, you need more 
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:42 pm
i have cooler subaru stuff than just papers. I have a kleenex cozy!
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:47 pm
I've got the same Impreza turbo book (2nd from right in top row)
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:09 am
Don't forget that insanely small and useless pillow, too!LaureltheQueen wrote:i have cooler subaru stuff than just papers. I have a kleenex cozy!
Guess it would make a nice pillow for resting your feet on when you put them up a table or desk, though.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:48 am
you've got me on books in quantity, but I've got you on books in rarity 
Plus model kits! dont forget those!
also no, you dont have enough.
Plus model kits! dont forget those!also no, you dont have enough.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:36 am
Loll...I've got brochures dating back to '91 plus countless pictures stuck all over my walls, and I'm starting to collect models
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:52 am
i have a subaru flash light key chain, ball hat, shirt, 3 posters, remote control wrc car.
but now i just spend money on tools to rip legacies apart
putting em back together .. now that's another story.
but now i just spend money on tools to rip legacies apart
putting em back together .. now that's another story.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:24 am
I have the small Subaru pillow, that's in the backseat of my Legacy, thought it looked rather cute back there 
Yeah, that sounded gay...
THAWA, don't forget the 1987, 1988, and 1989 full-line brochures I have up top
I also have models of the 22B, the WRX Type R (yellow with black wheels) and a white 4-door WRX type RA...
Yeah, that sounded gay...THAWA, don't forget the 1987, 1988, and 1989 full-line brochures I have up top
I also have models of the 22B, the WRX Type R (yellow with black wheels) and a white 4-door WRX type RA...
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:31 am
oh I haven't forgotten, remember I have the road and track's guide to the new subaru svx, and another namless brochure about the production of the svx that was PRINTED in japan plus various others, not to mention all the BC/BF legacy models, except the 91 RAC rally, hasegawa or otherwise.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:19 pm
Ah great, now I'm going to have to dig up all my Subaru crap, lay it out and take a picture of it. Thanks, thanks a lot.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:34 pm
Hehe... I don't have very much Subaru stuff. I used to have a copy of the ad for the XT6 on my wall -- the one that's titled "The kind of car Mercedes-Benz might have built if they had been a little more creative and a little more frugal" but I lost it.
Hey, are those the complete XT factory service manuals? Do they have a section where they talk about how the brake booster works? I wonder if the XT had a booster like the single-stage one for Legacies/Imprezas...
Hey, are those the complete XT factory service manuals? Do they have a section where they talk about how the brake booster works? I wonder if the XT had a booster like the single-stage one for Legacies/Imprezas...
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:15 pm
D'oh. Vikash, you reminded me, I forgot to add the magazine page of the "father/son" XT ad ("Son, I thought you were going to buy a Subaru." "But Dad, I did!" )
Yep, complete 88 XT FSM's. I looked in the specifications for the brake booster, and they both were "vacuum suspended" type, obviously, but the XT6 was "vacuum suspended (tandem)". I'm not sure what that means, I'm no brake booster expert. I have diagrams of both boosters too, but I don't have a scanner, I'm afraid 
Maybe I should read up a bit
)Yep, complete 88 XT FSM's. I looked in the specifications for the brake booster, and they both were "vacuum suspended" type, obviously
, but the XT6 was "vacuum suspended (tandem)". I'm not sure what that means, I'm no brake booster expert. I have diagrams of both boosters too, but I don't have a scanner, I'm afraid Maybe I should read up a bit Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:03 pm
Oh yeah, I had that father/son ad too!
Huh. So it's possible the XT had a single stage booster and the XT6 had the tandem stage booster?
If you have some time it'd be really cool if you could read up on the functional differences between the two boosters... I'll see if I can scan the relevant Legacy booster documentation for you to compare it to.
Huh. So it's possible the XT had a single stage booster and the XT6 had the tandem stage booster?
If you have some time it'd be really cool if you could read up on the functional differences between the two boosters... I'll see if I can scan the relevant Legacy booster documentation for you to compare it to.
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:04 pm
Oh wait -- you have the Legacy FSM too, dontcha? Do you have the section about the brakes as well?
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:09 am
I have everything check this out
2 r/c subaru rally cars
1 14'x4' banner
3 hats
lots of keychains
lots of brochures
tons of stickers/decals
2 shirts
tons of parts
a few videos
1 91 legacy turbo 5mt
2 extra sets of rims with tires
1 zippo lighter
a set of hub caps from a 79 wagon
Am I weird?
Or a serious fanatic?
2 r/c subaru rally cars
1 14'x4' banner
3 hats
lots of keychains
lots of brochures
tons of stickers/decals
2 shirts
tons of parts
a few videos
1 91 legacy turbo 5mt
2 extra sets of rims with tires
1 zippo lighter
a set of hub caps from a 79 wagon
Am I weird?
Or a serious fanatic?
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:25 am
I have sections 3 and 4 of the Legacy FSM's, I really need the rest of them, I'll probably get those this month.
I will say this Vikash, my 4cyl XT brakes a HELL of a lot better than my Legacy, even with old pads and rotors and a system that's still not bled properly. That could be weight-related, but I dunno.
I will say this Vikash, my 4cyl XT brakes a HELL of a lot better than my Legacy, even with old pads and rotors and a system that's still not bled properly. That could be weight-related, but I dunno.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:53 am
A lot of it, I think, is indeed the weight.
Are you just comparing them in normal braking, or have you evaluated how well they resist fade as well?
Are you just comparing them in normal braking, or have you evaluated how well they resist fade as well?
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:07 am
Just normal braking, I've never pushed the XT hard enough to get the brakes to fade. The Legacy faded really bad on the Dragon, but that's coz I was using el cheapo Albany pads...
But in normal braking, it feels like the brakes have to do less work to bring the car to a stop on the XT. I wish I could bring actual calculations to the discussion, but I only have subjective evidence.
But in normal braking, it feels like the brakes have to do less work to bring the car to a stop on the XT. I wish I could bring actual calculations to the discussion, but I only have subjective evidence.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:10 am
I just have 3 legacies, and and extra motor. And they all run. except the extra motor.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:37 am
Oh, the subjective feel could be lots of things... Different amounts of power assist, different mechanical advantage, different weight... if it has a single stage booster that's probably some of it too.
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:16 pm
Actually Vikash, I looked pretty thoroughly at the brake booster diagrams in my Legacy FSM's last night. Turns out the Legacy one shows how the booster works under a number of different conditions, from slight to full pedal range. The XT's doesn't With the pictures and everything, I saw how a tandem booster works. That said, yes I can assuredly say that the XT is a single stage booster
With the pictures and everything, I saw how a tandem booster works. That said, yes I can assuredly say that the XT is a single stage booster Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:50 pm
Oh, hm. Oh well; I guess we continue to search for an early Impreza FSM.
The part -- I think -- that's very different between the single stage and double stage boosters is the "under medium load" part. The tandem booster apparently tries to make it so it takes almost no effort to maintain moderate brake pressure after you've achieved it, completely violating the springlike behavior that you might expect.
The part -- I think -- that's very different between the single stage and double stage boosters is the "under medium load" part. The tandem booster apparently tries to make it so it takes almost no effort to maintain moderate brake pressure after you've achieved it, completely violating the springlike behavior that you might expect.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:42 am
An update on this, it's gotten serious...
I have the full-line brochures of these years, they appear in this order from top left:
79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, 95, 97, 98, 99, 01, 02, and 05.
I also have these model-specific brochures appearing in the same order:
90 Legacy (and supplement), 91 XT, 94 Legacy, 01 Legacy, 02 Impreza, 02 WRX, 02 Legacy, 03 Baja, 04 Legacy, 04 Impreza, 04 Outback, 04 Forester (and XT supplement), 04 STi, and 05 Legacy (and supplement).
I'm not stopping there either.
Any challengers?
I have the full-line brochures of these years, they appear in this order from top left:
79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 91, 92, 95, 97, 98, 99, 01, 02, and 05.
I also have these model-specific brochures appearing in the same order:
90 Legacy (and supplement), 91 XT, 94 Legacy, 01 Legacy, 02 Impreza, 02 WRX, 02 Legacy, 03 Baja, 04 Legacy, 04 Impreza, 04 Outback, 04 Forester (and XT supplement), 04 STi, and 05 Legacy (and supplement).
I'm not stopping there either.
Any challengers?