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Off-Road Tires?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:10 pm
by magicmike
What are some of you rally-x guys running for tires?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:26 pm
by tris91ricer
Good question. I kinda wanted to know, too.. can they double as winter tires? good thinking, mike.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:05 pm
by BAC5.2
http://www.falkentire.com/tires_rs01d.htm

You can get them in 14" or 15" and even in stock sized 195/65/15 for the Turbo Legacy.

They look as though they would be really good in the snow, ESPICALLY if you got the soft-compound's. But I'd be very weary of tread life on the Soft compounds. I remember SCC saying that the soft compounds were AWESOME, but you could measure tire wear with a stop watch (like most Falken high-grip tires).

Get the Mediums if you want them to last you the winter season, and get the softs if you don't mind replacing them often.

I bet they are loud as a bitch on the street, but that's to be expected. Everything high-grip is loud.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:11 pm
by magicmike
I'm looking for something just for dirt and gravel to be mounted at the event. I'll check out that link. Thanks

-Mike

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:56 pm
by magicmike
I'm having a hard time finding a dealer who can order these things. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:05 pm
by vrg3
I thought dirt/gravel tires needed to be made of a hard compound to work well.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:15 am
by 90LegAWD
i'd say it depends on the surface

if it's ultra hard packed gravel roads, you'd probably want something hard to be able to dig up the dirt

on a looser two track/non-packed dirt i'd imagine soft would be better as the surface is easy to dig into

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:51 am
by BAC5.2
vrg3 wrote:I thought dirt/gravel tires needed to be made of a hard compound to work well.
I remember talking to Brent and experimenting ourselves, that stiffer suspension combined with non-compliant tires (Parada Spec 2's) would slide like there was no tomorrow on the gravel. Where my Legacy on RE92's would just dig in and turn.

I'll dig up the SCC article and check it out.

Reguardless, Falken offers both compounds.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 5:21 pm
by magicmike
I've tried a few local tire places and they cant even get these from their falken distributor.......not sure what to do

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:50 am
by greg donovan
just a note about gravel rally tires.

DO NOT use them in weather below freezing or in the snow. the pattern looks good but the compound WILL get very hard in the cold.

as far as rallyx tires if you must have new rally tires and are only rallxing buy the kuhmo R700 from the tire rack. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... mpare1=yes i would reccomend finding a rally team in your area and purchasing their used tires. a half to 3/4 warn rally tire wil be an awesome rallyx tire.

the falkens would be cool.
not sure where to get them either.

the tabors out west can get you silverstones.
http://www.taborrallyteam.com/silversto ... stone.html

sube sports can get michelins.
http://www.subesports.com/products/?car ... elin+Rally

but you are looking at about 100 or more for their tires. the kuhmos are 80 and used rally tires can be as low as 15 to as high as 50 or more. usually around 25.

i have a set of used kuhmos i got in exchange for crewing at a rally. i also have a set of michelin M4s that i got for about 15 each.

the kuhmos are better in muddy or sandy/loose conditions and the michelins are better in gravel/hard dirt.

for a all season street tire the best choice is the nokian hakkapelita 1 or WR.