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Okay, for the most part, there are two social groups throughout most of life, I'll compare them to the usual high school social groups.

There are the popular kids, the jocks, the cheerleaders, the preppy type, prom kings/queens, what have you.

Then there are the quiet, A/V geeky type, who probably won all the academic awards but no popularity awards whatsoever.

What group do you think you fit in? I was honest, you should be too.

Throughout most of life??? After a certain point all that crap disappears and becomes the haves and the have-nots. A geek can be a have or a have not. The same goes for a jock or whatever.

i put in other and heres why.

in highschool i hung out with the same people i have for my entire life. we were neither jocks or geeks. we were in the middle. i did have a stint with the jocks but when hard times (ie drug bust) came around they blamed me because it was well know that i dont mess with drugs or alcohol. for the most part i still got along with jocks really good except for the ones who still heald a grudge.

we were also the kids who sat with the girls and talked with them without getting seriously involved. just the regular social stuff.

thats my in school side. outside of school at work and out on the west side of town i am kinda hip hop. my friends know it and dont mind although they are american muscle hard rock and country types. also outside of school i let myself go in terms of language. i went to a prep school (privite catholic uniforms ect.) so acting the way i do at work in the west is like a release for me.

then there is my home/ church side. when im around the church group im always dressed to impress, watch my language, act polite and speak proper language instead of using slang terms.

the funny part is when im still wearing a suit and start working on cars with my american muscle friends and start using hip hop slang. it has happened before. everyone that was there thought i was werid

There is no social group.

I surround myself with the people i want to be around.

Jock/nerd I played lots of sports in highschool and was friends with the other jocks, but i also did really well in school. Now, I'm surrounded by a mix, even a couple bosnians, a serbian, and a nepalese, but all of them are cool people. None of my friends are dicks.

Well, I had to vote other. I hung out with everybody really. I played sports and was a stand out player. I played both ways in football, I was the starting tail back and outside linebacker. My Junior year I had around 1,200 yrds and 15 TD's and on defense I had something like 7 int and 23 sacks. I'm not bragging, I was just a natural at football. I had a shot at a full ride to the University of Oregon but I fucked it up. I would have been second gen. if I'd had gone. My dad was their starting QB in 67-69.

I also played basketball until my 2nd year in HS but stopped because I stopped growing and everyone else didn't. I was still a really good point guard but skiing and snowboarding really took over for the winter time. I played baseball and was an all conference pitcher and a 2nd team all state-catcher.

Now through all that I was a hard core skater. It was my life. I dressed like a skater and was also really into the alternative club scene and all that went along with it. I would do my hair up Robert Smith style and go dance my ass off.

I also almost always had some kind of band that I was playing in. We'd play keggers and stuff mostly. My one band even got to play at Spring Fest in Eugene in front of about 2k people. That was pretty crazy.

So I had friends that ranged from straight Goth death walkers and A/V club, pocket protecter wearing "geeks" to the full on jocks and prepy's. You can think of pretty much any social group and I garauntee I was friends with them. Stoners, bangers, skaters, punks, Goth, Geeks, nerds, hippies, dreads, jocks, preps, dramatites, hicks, billies, gear heads, the list goes on. Now concidering that I grew up mainly in Eugene Oregon, the social lines were blurred much more then most places. It wasn't "weird" to see a punk with liberty spikes walking hand in hand down the hall with a cheerleader. Hell, my girlfriend was cheerleader. I guess I was lucky in that respect but I blurred the lines a lot more then most, even in Eugene.

When I lived a short time in Medford with my dad it was a lot different. It was super clicky and people didn't know what to think of me. A skater/clubber/ jock? People didn't know what the hell to think. I did the same thing there though too and brought people together that otherwise wouldn't have looked at each other unless it was with angry glares.

Ok, well I'm really starting to ramble now and I guess you'll all just have to buy the book if you want the whole story (unedited).

Now a days I don't really look at social classes at all. I can still hang out with anyone. As long as you're cool and have an open mind, I'm down.

I think I've heard that story somewhere before....

I'm with Matt, I was one of those guys that got to 'blur the lines' in a small town. Yes, my small school was very clique-y, but sometimes it just takes a bit of self-exploration and some 'i don't give a fuck' attitude that forces people to respect you. But then again, in my area, people are shocked when you tell them that not only do you indeed know everything (there's the geek part) but that you're also down to go smoke a blunt (stoner/g's) and shoot some hoops or a game of touch (jocknockers)
..again, rare scenario, as it only works in small towns and Junior Highs with about 150 people in your class. High School was another story.
I got expelled my soph. year for stealing laptops and hacking some servers. I would have gotten away with it, too, except my best friend (at the time) and partner in crime decided to flip me.
So, I got an early vacation that year, and started next year at the Alternative School. (DUM DUM DUUUMM!)

Holy Miss Moley, Got Me A Live One!~
Now, after packing my gun with me the first day.. I came back two days later (muey cool schedule, 2.5 days a week!) unarmed; this place is AWESOME. They actually treat you like an adult, and expect you to act like one. What a concept, coming from a fancy jail for students, like my old high school. (the "regular" one) HaHah, we even called it "regular" school as our inside joke, school-wide. We knew the difference.

Alternative schools are really cool, IMO, and here's why: It's a level playing field. You're all fuck-ups. So talk to anyone, hang with anyone. For the most part, we treated each other like family, cause we looked out for each other, too. Of course, there are always the bitch fights, and dudes with 'tudes that needed to be left at home, or something, but other than that, it was an awesome place to get an education. I feel pretty blessed.

Did I run off-topic with that?

shit, i did.

I say other:

Jr high I hung out with a bunch of misfits who were more or less geeks, and I stayed with them for the first couple years in highschool. I quickly made friends in all circles of the school though, and was pretty much known by a lot of people even if I didn't really always hang out with them. It seemed like I didn't really have a group. I was more of everyone's friend and just hung out with the close friends I had, and they ranged all over the place.

College was the same way. It just seems like I wasn't ever tryign to dress to impress or fit with some sort of crowd. I was just me. Others liked that and respected that and we all just seemed to get along. I also noticed that a lot of people came to get my advice on stuff that they'd go through. They seemed to like my take on life and even if they didn't take my advice, they seemed to like to hear it. That's just were're I've found myself through the years.

-Ryan

I'm totally somewhere inbetween. While most of my interests are totally nerd-based, my social development over the years has made it totally easy for me to "hang" with the popular folks. . . IF I feel like it. Unfortunately, those "popular" cliques often entail dealing with stupid drama, showboating, and general mud-slinging. With the nerdy crowd, you really don't see that as often. . . and people tend to act as they really are, knowing they're totally accepted for who they are and not who they're TRYING to be.

And nerds often-times have teh hookups. . . I should know.

creel wrote:Throughout most of life??? After a certain point all that crap disappears and becomes the haves and the have-nots. A geek can be a have or a have not. The same goes for a jock or whatever.

This is about as brutally honest as it goes. I'd like to think i'm reaching a point where "i have" and i'm glad that i've worked as much as i have and put aside what i have to get here (lots of "i have"s in there).

I was a "have not" before, before I relized that the only way anything was going to get done was by me doing it. Done deal. I try not to rely on anyone to do anything without at least -some- level of supervision. Sure, it's a future-dictator point of view, but if the shoe fits...

I surround myself with people who enjoy life, that is my clique. Computer geeks, home depot lumber workers, german car gurus, people who drink everything from jack daniels to $125 shots of old chinese brandy. It doesn't matter if they were a jock or a geek or if they wear pants coated in fish scales, as long as they're enjoying what they do or are working toward it.

I never tried to be popular, but I guess I was/am as most people from any group like me (sometimes even when I don't want them to). I think the reason is that people appreciate honesty and some lack of pretense. The only people who don't seem to like me much either are obsiquious and rich people who are not down to earth and that's fine with me.

Steve

I did it all.

I was a hippy, a geek, a popular guy. I had friends in every group of people. I started the HackySack club with a friend of mine (which grew to the biggest, most memorable club in school history. 1/4 of the entire schools population was in that club). I was part of the car guys, the science guys, the art guys. I never "found myself" in high school. I wasn't a conformist, and didn't ever identify myself with a specific group. I didn't alienate myself from a group, just because I didn't want to identify with one.

I lived my life, did my thing, and got the fuck out.

Now, I hang out with mostly my car friends. I hang out with everyone. I work, and get along with those people. I don't define myself to a group. I am a "have" in my own eyes, because I have non-material things that help build who I am. I have experiences in things that many people don't. I have everything I need to be happy, and everything I don't have, I will eventually find.

Oh, and I am cool, because I hang out with Matt.

I'm going to be honest here and say why I voted the geeky type, and why I'm still pretty much in it.

I'm a loner, I never had many friends when I was a little kid (home schooling will do that to ya ) and when I started actual school in 4th grade, I was a total and complete social outcast. I had NO earthly idea how to socialize, how to fit in, how to be one of the guys. It took me about 2 years to learn all that stuff, and then I was somewhat accepted.

But I was still only accepted more or less by the geeky, reserved group. The ultimate top-of-the-class popular kids wanted nothing to do with me. They knew who I was and somewhat respected me, but wouldn't be caught dead with me outside of school in a social meeting.

This carried through, and got worse in, high school, as I was only friends with the geeks and nerds. The popular group knew who I was, didn't like me, and had no problem sharing that with me and everyone else in the school. I got along with one of the car guys who was in the popular group, but it was kinda the same thing: wouldn't dare hang out outside of school.

I have not made ONE friend in college... well, one that I have hung out with outside of seeing them in class. The only people I know in college are people I already knew (knew them in middle/high school). Since I came from small private schools and went into a college with 40,000 students, I am nothing more than a number in college.

This even applies at work right now. Most of the "cool" people with all the friends at work have nothing to do with me, and have been known to pick on me. I've made a couple acquaintances there, but nothing more. All I am there is the super-quiet, always-depressed-looking shuttle driver who drives the most aggressively and listens to the most offensive music.

My good friends that I have now are only people who either joined me in the geeky/misfit group, or people who are in the popular group but who are mature enough to hang out with anyone they like and not who their group says is acceptable.

I've never officially been in the popular group and the way it looks now, I don't think I ever will. I think that group has pushed me out enough times that I don't even wanna try to get in anymore.

Yeah, I really am gonna be alone most of my life

I wouldn't want to be part of any group that would have me as a member - Groucho Marx

Steve

Other. Home schooled the whole time exept for about 2.5yrs at a small private school. The worst 2.5yrs of my life. I never felt like I fit in anywhere untill I joined the Army. I still feel different than everyone else even though nobody thinks I'm different.

Most of my friends (very few but all very good people) are misfits and most are car guys that never have a GF (me too). I will hang out with most any group exept the ricers (selfish jerks) but don't spend any time working on my social status.

I enjoy a lot of redneck stuff, hunting, fishing, 4wheeling. A lot of that I do alone or with one or more of my brothers, not the hicks.

I own and ride a crotch rocket a lot but don't hang out with that group because they all want to die on a bike. I have never used it to get laid because I don't like groupies.

I am happy with what I've done in life and just want to enjoy it, now more so after living on the edge here.

geeks, geeks and more geeks. I work in a research lab - heck I've even gone from bringing to making my coffee and beer there now - so all my peers are geeks. Most of us are hippie-geeks though. Who better to fight against trans-genic agri products than a geneticist? Or to help our state lose a lawsuit for water pollution (Oklahoma sued us over N in the Illinois River) than marine biologists with mass-spectrometry? One of us (evolutionary biologist) is the chair of the local Sierra Club. Tree huggers with isotopes - we'll save the world!