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Expected HP gains from awic?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:42 am
by LaureltheQueen
Just curious, I've got a JDM AWIC sitting in my garage as we speak, wondering what I should expect. I'm imagining it'll be a noticable difference, and that's all I'm really hoping for. If it wasn't, I'd be heated that I spent $150 for no noticable gain

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:59 pm
by Brat4by4
Your car will run safer and will be able to safely run more timing. The peace of mind + extra horsepower is worth the $150.

With stock exhaust... don't expect too much. But it will run much better on a hot day.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:42 pm
by MY92
Laurel, you got the pump and a core to use?

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:37 pm
by dzx
I never had an intercooler on a stock turbo, but you should notice a good difference

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:22 pm
by scottzg
I'm gonna go with slight loss of hp and smoother running.

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:18 pm
by eastbaysubaru
^what Scott said. You'll probably have a small drop in boost. The benefit of running the IC is that you can then up the boost safely. I'd say the next step is exhaust.

-Brian

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:10 pm
by -K-
I'm not sure what gains you will get stock. An MBC to get boost up will help. I think the DP is the biggest thing in the way of power.

I did mine at the same time as my hybrid turbo but I bet it will pull a lot harder at the top than stock if the cat isn't crapped out too much.

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:16 pm
by BAC5.2
You'll get a pressure drop, most likely. But if you up the boost back to stock manifold pressures, you should see a few gains.

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:27 pm
by vrg3
The OEM air/water intercooler is one of the least restrictive intercoolers you can put on this car. You might even be able to keep stock boost control with it.

I think you'll see some small quantifiable performance gains, particularly at high engine speeds. I couldn't guess at a number though.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:20 am
by LaureltheQueen
I guess my next mod will be the CES downpipe... if anyone has one for sale..... hint hint.

I've got:
Various water fittings(i'm guessing as they're tiny)
a radiator
a pump
an intercooler

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:48 pm
by -K-
I was told that the AWIC radiator won't fit the US bumper. The tabs on the back have to be cut off and welded flat or pounded flat. I didn't get the radiator so I don't know if it's true or not.

If I was going to do it over I would have used a large tranny cooler that would fill the opening in the lower bumper skin.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:03 pm
by dzx
I would think the radiator would allow the water to cool down so it doesnt become a nice heater.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:51 pm
by vrg3
When you're off boost, the air passing through the inside of the intercooler does cool the core back down some.

But I think -K- was just saying he didn't get the OEM radiator with his AWIC.

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:35 pm
by douglas vincent
I slid the small oil cooler I am using down in front of the radiator behind the grill and zip tied it in place.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:44 pm
by Brat4by4
The AWIC flows better than the least restrictive STi topmount ever made, I've seen a write up on it. Boost loss will be minimal and the ecu should compensate for it.

Yes, dp is a must. Just so you know... once you do that, Laurel, you sorta can't stop doing stuff. Its like a disease. You won't stop until your car is faster than Art's. :)

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:44 pm
by legacy92ej22t
Totally, haha.

I didn't know that the AWIC flowed that well. That's interesting....

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:17 pm
by Brat4by4
Yeah, it was pretty interesting. I think a lot of the topmount's piping was more restrictive than the AWIC core.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:49 pm
by dzx
When are you going to put the awic on?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:13 pm
by tris91ricer
It's looking like thursday, from what I hear..

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:20 am
by Yukonart
Brat4by4 wrote:The AWIC flows better than the least restrictive STi topmount ever made, I've seen a write up on it. Boost loss will be minimal and the ecu should compensate for it.

Yes, dp is a must. Just so you know... once you do that, Laurel, you sorta can't stop doing stuff. Its like a disease. You won't stop until your car is faster than Art's. :)
:lol: Riiiiight. . . .

BTW, Laurel's got a WRX midpipe and an STi axleback on there, already. ;)

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:34 am
by LaureltheQueen
lol, either the car will be faster than art's, or I'll die trying...

not really, the prospect of having a car with little to no safety features and that much power terrifies me

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:39 am
by Yukonart
. . . let alone seeing a vinyl image of Martha Stewart going at such speeds would be more than the common public could handle. ;)

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:08 am
by THAWA
Don't you have an Airbag, ABS, and a Passive restraint system. What else do you need?

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:09 am
by Yukonart
No airbag in Laurel's car

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:10 am
by THAWA
Brat4by4 wrote:The AWIC flows better than the least restrictive STi topmount ever made, I've seen a write up on it. Boost loss will be minimal and the ecu should compensate for it.
That's amazing. Even better than the JDM v8?