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IC in front bumper? possible? good? bad?

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:38 am
by carguy327
As the subject states, is it possible to put a BIG intecooler in the bumper?
Obviously routing issues are there, but has anyone done it?

Hmm ..custom exhaust manifold....I'm gonna like this car.

G

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:06 am
by -K-
Yes, it has been done. I think you will have to modify the bumper, and the piping for a WRX fmic can be modifided to work. I have seen some pics on here try a search. And go over to the rsliberty web site, and do a search.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:17 pm
by rsstiboy
piping example
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Black FMIC, you will see the blue hoses on the sides, (the car closest to the camera)
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:21 pm
by ciper
"Aussies get the best RS's"

Hows that?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:57 am
by Invisible Throw
RSSTiBoy: got any more pics of the install?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:04 am
by Invisible Throw
I dig the over flow bottle :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:05 am
by LegacyPunk
Sooo many turbos :shock: :twisted:

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:36 pm
by rsstiboy
ciper wrote:"Aussies get the best RS's"

Hows that?
actually it should be Aussies and Japanese, both versions have quad cam intercooled motors, and do sub 15sec 1/4 miles standard.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:20 pm
by ciper
But they are 2.0 liters. Why is it all the RS/GT and even WRX owners want the US legacy turbo block and not the Australian version?!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:29 pm
by rsstiboy
because our 2.2ltr is a opened deck version and we stick on wrx heads on your block to make a weapon, if i was going that way I would just get a stroker kit for my block, you will find that the liberty and pre '96 wrx owners won't be chasing your block because theirs is already closed decked and simply have to put a stroker kit in and change the pistons.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:33 pm
by ciper
"way I would just get a stroker kit for my block"

A stroker kit! Have you looked at the prices for the strokers?! Good luck. To match the 2.2 you would have to increase the bore of your block. Check the pricing on bore and sleave of a subaru block plus the cost of pistons.

Your argument is still weak. The US turbo legacy has more potential.

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:38 pm
by boostjunkie
*getting some popcorn for this*

ROUND 2!! GO!! lol!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:40 pm
by vrg3
I dunno...

Stock, the Aussies got a better Legacy Turbo.

When you want to start doing modifications, the comparison becomes unclear. One could, for example, take the EJ22G short block and the EJ20G heads, and ... uh ... which continent would that be from, anyway?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 10:56 pm
by ciper
The lowest cost strokers I have found are in the 4000$ + US range.
Bore and Sleeve of a subaru is about 1200

Now you could try to get the USDM STI crank and rods to make a custom stroker but these are still an unknown (reliability and fitment).

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:44 am
by legacy92ej22t
boostjunkie wrote:*getting some popcorn for this*

ROUND 2!! GO!! lol!
Bwahaha! Ding, ding.


:D

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:28 am
by rsstiboy
still doesn't matter if its 2 litres or 2.2ltrs, the turbo makes up for it, however the more capacity the greater the torque, and you don't have to bore anything out to fit a 2.2 or 2.4 stroker.......
plus even the worlds fastest AWD is a 2ltr...... http://www.fullboost.com.au/racing/reco ... l_4wd.html

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:10 pm
by ciper
Only because the US only had the turbo for a very low production and didnt get ANY 2 liter engines until 2002. If we had the 2.2 turbo this whole time I guarantee the worlds fastest would NOT be a 2 liter.

"you don't have to bore anything out to fit a 2.2 or 2.4 stroker"
True but it would be oversquare like our engine already are. You increase the stroke so much and problems with high RPM start to be an issue.

Besides, it still ends up costing major money for these strokers. The HP for the $ is very low.

Ive driven in enough stock through medium level modified 2 liters and the displacement lost is really noticable. Its unfortunate that you have never ridden in a 2.5rs or 2.5gt turbo. Even at 5psi they will spank any midly modified WRX.

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:42 pm
by evolutionmovement
But the higher compression on a turboed N/A counters turbo lag and also... Oh wait, you're defending America. Please continue...

Steve

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:17 am
by rsstiboy
how come you guys always think your under attack? just because we got 1 version of a car that in stock form is a better package, you guys make the best V8 engines in the world.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:12 pm
by evolutionmovement
America is always under attack! We must be ever vigilant to protect ourselves from the rest of the evil world! Australia is a known terrorist hotbed with the Al-Kuala terrorist group, and oh yeah, there's Cobra, too! :lol:

Steve

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:51 pm
by 91White-T
The world'd fastest 4 cyl 4wd is a 2 liter, but it's definitely not a WRX! That list is dead wrong, hell I know of more than one DSM running A LOT faster than 9.1!!

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:29 am
by kelley
you guys make the best V8 engines in the world.
:P
now that's something to be proud of.

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:01 pm
by 91White-T
I think we also make the best V6 enignes in the world... (Grand National/Syclone/Turbo Trans Am) :D

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:05 pm
by evolutionmovement
I think made the best V6, then, would apply. Bastards at GM want to excite people forget the Holden GTO - build a new GN.

Steve

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:10 am
by 91White-T
I completely agree but that will never happen again unfortunately, stupid ass GM is busy on plastic cladded garbage and whatnot at the moment :evil: