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Help!! Caliper/Pads Question

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:17 pm
by QuickDrive
So, My front pads are off, new ones sitting in the box..

On the back of my old pads is this metal backing plate(although rusted to unuability)

My question... these didn't come with my new pads.
Are they needed?

Should they have came with my pads? or are they a sperate order?

as an aside... damn my pads in the front were done...

help plz

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:50 pm
by evolutionmovement
I've gone without the backing plates and not had a problem. I think all they do is supposedly reduce squeal. Did the pads come with new clips?

Steve

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:55 pm
by QuickDrive
Nope, and I called Napa, where I got em and they said most of their premium pads come with em... but mind didn't... and he didn't have another box in stock to check..

I'll be going without for now, and will see what the squeal is like....

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:11 pm
by professor
I never use the shims if they are rusty. get some permatex blue anti-squeal and coat the back of both pads, before even starting the job. I never get squeal with the permatex, shims or not.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:39 pm
by evolutionmovement
I haven't gotten squeal without either, but I'd recommend the permatex just the same. They didn't give you the clips either? Can you reuse your old clips?

Steve

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:01 pm
by QuickDrive
No, my old clips were done for.

There weren't any new clips with the new pads...

I'll set in the pads and go back n add the permatex next weekend.

:)

Thx

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:01 am
by Legacy777
I hate the shims.....they cause more noise then they help IMO

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:09 am
by QuickDrive
No Shims,
No noise. I'm good to go.

I have brakes now! wow....

I'll put pics up of my old pads here soon. damn I had no idea they were that bad...

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:13 am
by IronMonkeyL255
The only pads I've gotten that had all the shims were the OEM subaru pads, and they cost $170 for a set of fronts & rears.

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:01 am
by evolutionmovement
My EBCs were separated from their backing when I replaced them.

Steve

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:09 am
by BAC5.2
Napa Premium pads suck.

I wore through a set in under 10,000 miles. But I lived in the back roads of west virginia and drove them very hard, very often.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:20 am
by skid542
I've gone with shims and without, I've never noticed too much difference.

Phil - Where about's in WV did you used to live? My father grew up in Parkersburg and the Skidmore farm is in Gassaway.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:16 pm
by QuickDrive
BAC5.2 wrote:Napa Premium pads suck.

I wore through a set in under 10,000 miles. But I lived in the back roads of west virginia and drove them very hard, very often.
They were cheap, and not "economy"

Daily highway driving, Taking it easy on the legacy, she hasn't felt right lately, don't want to hurt anythign

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:45 am
by BAC5.2
Lee - Martinsburg area, near Harpers Ferry.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:11 pm
by skid542
Cool stuff Phil. There are definately some fun roads around there.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:09 pm
by BAC5.2
Oh, indeed there are.

There was this one road, an on-camber, decreasing radius, downhill, high speed, tight sweeper fed by a nice tight left turn 100 feet before it. The turn was almost exactly like the turn at Laguna Seca.

You could hit it just right and rail the hell out of the turn. I was taking it at like 60 on RE92's without getting to far out of shape. Super sweet.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:14 pm
by skid542
That's pretty good for RE92's. I always end up with my dad's 95 Altima when I'm headed up that way, it handles well but it's not as nimble and light on her feet as my Legacy.

One of my favorite roads is Rt. 219, esspecially going up and down Droop Mt. I still don't understand how they pave the roads with the bank angles that WV likes to use and that I consequently love. It's just too much fun taking those turns and feel more verticle load than lateral.