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I searched for georryans thread about this but couldn't find it. Anyways, I got my CES cross-pipe installed (finally, after over a year) and wanted to say that I have the same burrbly, old air cooled VW, sound that georryan said he was getting. It really does change the exhaust note quite a bit. I did noticed that the cross-pipe seemed to shorten spool up just slightly but nothing super incredible. I'm very pleased with it though and it looks tits.

This one? http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... hlight=ces

I don't like the sound that much. We went on a semi long trip. I wouldn't want that sound

Yeah, I don't care for the sound, reminds me of a bug. hehe

Although, I do say that after a while, you tend to tune it out. It is a lot louder under load in low rpms. Once you get up in the rpms, and you have a good amount of exhaust going through it, the sound tends to disapear and blend in more with the turbo spool. It made it harder to hear the turbo at times, but that's no biggy. I actually noticed a slight decrease in spool time as well Matt.

Do you have the upipe on as well? I bet the two combined will be great. I have't put in my uppipe yet.

I need to get a CAT in though, I got a headacke after today, and the car behind me was getting one too.

Overall, I think it comes down to the fact that the upipe/crosspipe combo is a cheap, faster spoolup, device. The other option is to go with headers.

My last pipe I think did have a leak, it was a bit louder than my current one.

Ya, mine only really has the burble sound at lower rpms too and I'm not real big on the sound either but I like the cross-pipe overall.

YES, I do have the up-pipe and cross-pipe installed and I think it's a very good solution instead of full headers.

Hardy- Ya, that was the thread. I actually got that one in my search but thought it was just about the leaking C-P. I guess I didn't read down far enough.

Hey Matt, you have the crosspipe in? What did you use to plug the hole? Or do you have an EGT now?

The closes thing I could find was a 12 mm thread with 1.25 spacing or whatever it is called. I couldn't find one short enough, though.

The hole's in the uppipe. I plugged it using a Nissan Sentra oil drain plug with a 12mm copper washer. Matt found a bolt of an appropriate length and sealed it with some high-temp sealant of some type.

You should plug it with an EGT probe

Where do you find a type K thermocouple with M12x1.25 threads?

Well, I doubt it was type k thermecouple, but it was a threaded bolt that fit in the hole, but it was too long. I found it at Ace Hardware.

Hardy - LOL

Oh, and yes the hole is in the uppipe; I meant that, but I see it didn't sound like it.

I was thinking of getting an EGT, but I just spent that money for some scuba gear today.

Nissan Sentra oil drain plug, eh? I'll have to look into that. Junkyard trip sounds like it is in the works.

Oh, and the crosspipe is really loud aperently. Hardy could hear the fluttering noise when he was driving in front of me, but not so much from behind me. (He has my stock exhaust on, though, so his engine noise is probably the loudest car sound he has other than his radio.)

I was talking to Hardy, Ryan. EGT probes are generally Type K thermocouples.

But, yeah, a Sentra drain plug. A junkyard one is fine, but you might just try the auto parts store around the corner first. It should only cost a buck or two, and you need to buy a new 12mm annealed copper washer anyway to use with it.

vrg3 wrote:I was talking to Hardy, Ryan. EGT probes are generally Type K thermocouples.

Oh, right.