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Cast iron or cast Aluminum?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:50 pm
by Tleg93
What metal is the exhaust housing on the VF8? I've been told both. Looking at it, it looks like iron but that seems silly to me. Does anyone know? I found a guy to possibly weld my VF8.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:43 pm
by Matt Monson
Based on the weight of it, and the rust, I would say iron. The headers and up-pipe are iron, so why not the exhaust housing too?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:47 pm
by vrg3
I'm 99% sure it is cast iron. Why does that seem silly to you?
I think cast aluminum would have a harder time handling the high temperatures seen in the turbine, and would radiate a lot more heat away than iron.
In any case, the welder will be able to tell if you bring it to him.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:49 pm
by scottzg
I've never seen an alum exh housing.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:53 pm
by vrg3
Aren't the uppipe and crosspipe stainless steel?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:27 pm
by Tleg93
Hmm, I can't remember who else told me it was Aluminum. Anyway, whoever it was that mentioned that my initial thought was that it was iron when we both looked at it at Matt's. It looked like iron. I guess someone telling me it was Aluminum cast some doubt on it for me. The welder here said he thought it would be Aluminum. I guess it seemed silly to me because I don't usually associate cast iron with car parts but I see that it makes sense. Does that make it more difficult to weld?
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:36 pm
by vrg3
Were you looking at Matt's stock turbo or his 16G? Cuz the 16G has a ceramic coating on its hot side, right?
There are a few pieces of cast iron on our cars. Brake discs, calipers, and exhaust manifolds come to mind. All parts that have to withstand a lot of heat.
Cast iron can be hard to weld, yes... But so can aluminum. I guess whether or not it would be more difficult would depend on the particular welder's experience and skill.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:41 am
by THAWA
I thought the uppipe was cast iron.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:37 am
by vrg3
I thought it had a flex joint in it.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:04 pm
by Tleg93
Doh, the flanges are different.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:42 pm
by Matt Monson
vrg3 wrote:I thought it had a flex joint in it.
I don't think it does. But I have a few out and can check. And I said the headers were cast, which they are. But you are correct the cross pipe is stainless...
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:51 pm
by vrg3
Scott - Which flanges are different?
Matt - Maybe I'm wrong. I don't actually know where I got the idea that the uppipe had a flex joint, now that I think about it.
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:14 pm
by legacy92ej22t
The CES up-pipe has a flex joint.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:45 pm
by Tleg93
The upipe I have sitting around has an uppipe has a flex joint.
Looking at my uppipe, the turbo side flange is wrong, unless I'm overlooking something. It won't bolt on to the turbo.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:48 pm
by vrg3
In what way is it different? Or is it completely different? I don't recall it looking wrong at a casual glance.
Is the uppipe you have sitting around the stock WRX one pulled from Majen? Or is it another one? If there's any chance it's from an EA engine that might explain the flanges being different.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:54 pm
by legacy92ej22t
The up-pipe will have extra studs on it that are for mounting the turbo support bracket. They don't all attach to the turbo.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:39 pm
by vrg3
Oh, right... duh...
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:25 pm
by Legacy777
The exhaust housing is most definitely cast iron. Standard cast aluminum would have a more difficult time handling the heat, and/or would be quite a bit more expensive.
The up-pipe & cross-pipe are standard steel piping. They are not stainless.
Here's pics of the stock exhaust
http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... /ej22t/26/
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:33 pm
by Tleg93
I forgot about the support bracket.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:15 pm
by Tleg93
Condo's welding in Lock Haven, PA said they could easily weld it. So any local guys that may need this kind of stuff, check them out.