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EJ20G headbolt torque and gasket question, yes I searched

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:57 am
by snowjob
I'm redoing my head gasket on my ej20g and can't find out what the torque specs are for the head, Also will a 03 2.0l WRX head gasket work for this application?
Thanks
Frazer

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:23 am
by napphappy
I will give this a try.

You have to do it in order.
If you are looking at the head, the order is...

(FRONT)IN 3 1 6

(FRONT)EX 5 2 4

1. First tighten them in order to 21ft/lb

2. tighten again in order to 51ft/lb

3. back off all bolts 180 degrees

4. back off all bolt another 180 degrees

5. tighten bolts 1 & 2 to 27ft/lb

6. tighten 3, 4, 5, 6, to 14ft/lb

7. in order tighten bolts 80 to 90 degrees
DO NOT EXCEEDE 90 degrees

8. Repeat step 7 DO NOT EXCEED 90 degrees

Then your done.

I know its wierd but thats how they say to do it :roll:

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:02 pm
by snowjob
Ok, wow, that's the most complicated way to do I've ever heard, Tahnks man, I would have goen and done it all wrong.

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:52 am
by Project_Legacy
yea it really is. LoL. those torque specs are for the ej20g and not the ej22t are they? i dunno if they are different or not.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:13 am
by bmxpunk
THis is what Chiltons said for the ej22t. SO my question is, is this correct. They were ALOT tighter than 21ft lbs. I mean mine took 1/2" breakerbar +cheater bar. Is that bad?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:00 pm
by snowjob
diddo the ej20 ttok me quite some time to break loose. i mean it was tight as hell. has anyone torqued to these specs before ?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:46 pm
by Matt Monson
The variances from engine to engine are only a couple of lbs. So, if you follow the general sequence, you will be fine. For some reason it lists a non-turbo a few pounds less than a turbo on the last measured settings. I don't see why since they are the same core heads. My manual says 80-90 degrees on the last two steps. Just don't exceed 90 degrees.

And they should be hella hard to break loose. You are going a full 180 degrees tighter after setting to 20 something ft/lbs. Based on the force required, I would guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 120ft/lbs or so.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:11 pm
by bmxpunk
why dont they just say 120 lbs, instead of making us do the hokey pokey :D

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:59 am
by napphappy
so that they can make us feel stupid because we dont know why we have to do it, but we do it anyway.

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:27 pm
by 206er
the final tightening is by degrees so I took this to mean that above a certain torque it is not accurate enough(one bolt might bind more than the others causing uneven bolt tension?), so degrees will get them more even. If that makes any sense. :?
the initial tightening before backing off must be to seat the gasket eh?
sort of on topic, who replaces head bolts? I reused mine as the FSM did not say it was necessary. I could not figure out if they were stretch bolts.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:51 am
by snowjob
I was going to reuse mine, My head gaskets arrive from England this week :)

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:53 pm
by Matt Monson
I have reused them on every Ej series engine I have ever built. And when I talked to both CCR and Cobb about it, they confirmed that that was fine...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:36 pm
by Legacy777
Yup....I reused mine. I used a different torquing procedure though.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:51 pm
by bmxpunk
how did you do your torque josh?

What did you guys use to get the old gasket material off of the block nad the heads? will a fine brass brush in a drill work? I am gonna try to put mine back together tonight.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:06 pm
by Legacy777
Yeah, you can use a wire brass brush. When I did mine, I used sandpaper. The wire brush didn't dawn on me until I had finished.

I was told that the procedure was proprietary to them, whether that's true or not, I can't say for sure, but I'm going to respect that.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:10 pm
by bmxpunk
ahh geez build anticipation them you squash me!!!!

thanks.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:17 pm
by Legacy777
Sorry. Just use the FSM procedure, and you should be fine.