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Quick ?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:49 pm
by irishsetter
Can I use a NA MAF on my 91 turbo?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:45 pm
by ej22t
No

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:08 am
by gt2.5turbo
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:49 am
by irishsetter
Ok thanks.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:55 am
by wiscon_mark
that was easy :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:34 am
by vrg3
Yes. You can use a MAF from a 90-91 5-speed non-turbo.

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:29 am
by Natoe
so this comes out as yes.. or no?

i have my impreza 1.8L MAF (1995) and am going to swap over to legacy wiring and ecu now, can i use the impreza MAF since the plug is the same from the engine harness for the legacy?

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:17 pm
by vrg3
For you the answer is no.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:52 am
by Natoe
really... its completely different than even the NA legacy one that you say works? this blows, that means i need a new MAF :(, but i can get a NA legacy one from 91-94?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:03 pm
by vrg3
Yes; it's completely different. See my first post to this thread to find out what cars' sensors you can use.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:00 pm
by Natoe
ok thanks man, i agree with subylvr2212's statement, hehe

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:28 pm
by bmxpunk
Natoe you wont want to use it. I started to on mine then I switched to using the legacy one with my impreza ecu. the legacy one seems to read a much broader range. What would be an upgrade from the legacy turbo as far as a MAF sensor goes. I wanna see if that would fix some of my super rich condition, not to mention I am getting really close to 5 volts already on only like 7-8psi and I wanna do 15.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:36 pm
by vrg3
The Legacy Turbo sensor has a smaller range than the Impreza sensor.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:40 pm
by bmxpunk
Than my 95 impreza1.8L maf sensor?????? That thing was maxed out most of the time and my car ran like crap, which was weird because it matched the ecu, my legacy one is a hitachi or whatever and the pins dont match up.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:43 pm
by vrg3
Yep. A smaller range.

The connectors are the same. It's just that two of the pins are more or less redundant (they're both grounds), and one of the pins is only used by Hitachi sensors (to inform the ECU that they're Hitachi), so some pins may be missing on either side of the connector depending on the sensor and on the car.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:51 pm
by bmxpunk
Dang. So what would be the best upgrade if I wanna run 15 Psi or later 18 when I get a new turbo? what car does it come off. or a part number.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:05 pm
by vrg3
The one that matches the rest of your engine management.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:16 pm
by bmxpunk
There is no upgrade????

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:17 pm
by vrg3
What would you imagine an upgrade MAF to be?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:21 pm
by bmxpunk
I dont know, just something that isnt maxing out when I am only pushing less than 10psi

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:25 pm
by vrg3
If you just want larger range, use your EJ18 sensor.

Do you understand what substituting MAF sensors does to an engine management system?

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:50 pm
by bmxpunk
please explain. I understand mechanical. tuning and electronics are new to me.



:x I just sold the MAF to my 1.8

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:58 pm
by vrg3
Well, in brief -- The computer needs to know what's going on in the engine. It uses sensors to do that. When you put the wrong sensor in, it misreads what's happening and does the wrong thing.

It's a system.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:26 pm
by bmxpunk
Ok I understand it is a system. I am using an EJ22t with an impreza 1.8 ecu and Rallitek perfect power smt6. The reason I was wondering if there is an Upgrade or Bigger MAF is because my computer is thinking it is supplying 180cc injectors, yet I have 370. Down low it is rich city. so if the MAF were calibrated different (in my thinking anyway) It would send a lower voltage reading to the ecu, which would send less fuel to the injectors. I deserately need to lean out the bottom and not just with the perfect power (taht is a story I dont want to get into right now) so then this (my "ideal") Bigger MAF would also read the more air coming in when I had the throttle wide open throttle which would richen my top end giving me more power and a better margin of safety for my motor. Does that make sense or am I am idiot?

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:05 am
by vrg3
Oh. So you're using a Perfect Power to manipulate all the stuff... You probably want to ask Sean or someone else at Rallitek this question. They can tell you what will match your engine management.