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Separate keys?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:32 pm
by 91White-T
My car now has two separate keys for the lock and ignition, but my old L and turbo both had only one key for both. Is my currrent legacy a freak??

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:23 pm
by Splinter
The cylinder in the door was probably replaced


If you take it out and bring it to a local locksmith, you can probably get it rekeyed to fit your ignition key.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:40 pm
by 0perose
mine's the same way... and the key that unlocks the doors was bent by the PO and is about to twist off in the lock.... man I should really fix that before I end up getting needlessly pissed off

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:46 pm
by Busdriver
my one key works for doors and ignition, but only on the driver's door, I think the passenger and hatch locks are not worn enough for the key or just stuck somehow, does someone have the same experience?
My key is really worn, almost like a flat screwdriver.
I tried getting a key cut to the vin, but apparently the dealer who sold my car for the first time did not enter the key code into the system. That's what two dealers said...

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:16 pm
by Marbles
hey busdriver... PM me your vin number and i'll toss it up monday and i'll be able to get you a key code... unless it really was not entered...

(i work in the parts department of Subaru in north carolina so i make keys for people all day)

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:50 pm
by Busdriver
Thanks Marbles will do so in about an hour!!

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:31 pm
by Marbles
where's that vin number man? i waited up all night checking my PM box every 30 seconds for about 19 hours untill i passed out at the keyboard... i'm SO dissapointed :x

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:30 pm
by LaureltheQueen
if the key code was not entered, then there's no way to look it up. I've been through this too. Carter Subaru lot techs did not enter my key code when the checked in the car, so there's no way to get a brand new key to brand new specifications. I've been to 2 other dealership as well. I have a full detailed history report of my car(it was a dealer demo for a few months, and then sat on the lot for another couple before it sold) but no key code. It happens.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:14 pm
by Legacy777
The key code is on the key ;) assuming it is original.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:39 pm
by Marbles
LaureltheQueen wrote:if the key code was not entered, then there's no way to look it up. I've been through this too. Carter Subaru lot techs did not enter my key code when the checked in the car, so there's no way to get a brand new key to brand new specifications. I've been to 2 other dealership as well. I have a full detailed history report of my car(it was a dealer demo for a few months, and then sat on the lot for another couple before it sold) but no key code. It happens.
if you want to PM me the vin, i can check it out one more time for you... because 99.97% of the time it's in there, you just gotta look really hard.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:21 pm
by scottzg
I wrote this a long long time ago:
scottzg wrote: I just dealt with this problem. I did it all myself and it cost me 2 dollars and 2 hours time. I could do it in an hour if i knew what i was doing.

My inner cylander had broken. It could turn around just as you described.

I went to the junkyard and picked up a drivers door lock off a 94 turbo. I went home and took my door handle off. There are 2 screws holding a backing plate that holds the handle on. the plate will fall into the door, disconnect the 2 wires from the lock assembly, not the handle. Thats the only way to get the handle back on.

Take your lock out of the handle by removing the retaining clip. disassemble the lock by taking off the C clip first, then the aluminum thing that is pressed on, and slide the broken lock core out. Take off the recentering springs, noticing where they go.
Take apart the donor lock in the same way.
Slide your key in the broken lock and see how the teeth move up and down. Thats how the lock works.
Now, use pliers and wiggle to pull all the teeth out of the donor lock core, being careful to leave the springs in place. Take the teeth and throw them as far as you can.
Now, line the two locks up together so they are facing the same way. Pull each key individually from your broken lock and place it IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE on your donor core.
When you've done it correctly, all the teeth will be in when you put the key in, allowing the core to spin in the casing. Put the whole assembly back together and put it in the handle.
The 2 wires are still attached to the handle, put the handle in the door and put the backing back and reconnect the wires. Congradulations, you now rekeyed a lock!

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:44 pm
by LaureltheQueen
Marbles wrote:
LaureltheQueen wrote:if the key code was not entered, then there's no way to look it up. I've been through this too. Carter Subaru lot techs did not enter my key code when the checked in the car, so there's no way to get a brand new key to brand new specifications. I've been to 2 other dealership as well. I have a full detailed history report of my car(it was a dealer demo for a few months, and then sat on the lot for another couple before it sold) but no key code. It happens.
if you want to PM me the vin, i can check it out one more time for you... because 99.97% of the time it's in there, you just gotta look really hard.
seriously, it's not in there. I'm also not one to send my vin to anyone online

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:27 pm
by Marbles
LaureltheQueen wrote: seriously, it's not in there. I'm also not one to send my vin to anyone online
Fair enough, cant really say i blame you either. Was just interested in lending a helping hand, that's all

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:23 pm
by Splinter
Marbles wrote:Fair enough, cant really say i blame you either. Was just interested in lending a helping hand, that's all
Why?

Whats wrong with people knowing your VIN?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:24 pm
by vrg3
For one thing, they can get keys cut for your car...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:52 pm
by Splinter
vrg3 wrote:For one thing, they can get keys cut for your car...
...


Good call :shock:

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:34 pm
by 91White-T
So what's stopping someone from going down to the local dealership, writing down some VINs and getting some free cars?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:59 pm
by LaureltheQueen
you generally have to have proof of ownership, but many dealerships don't require ID to cut keys. There have been a few busts within the last few years. The local honda dealership got pwn3d for it a while back.

I've worked at thesubaru dealership my car was originally purchased from and have done background checks there, and at the local dealership when I lived with my mother. Neither could pull up the key code

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:43 pm
by vrg3
91White-T wrote:So what's stopping someone from going down to the local dealership, writing down some VINs and getting some free cars?
Or just walking through the parking lot, looking at the VIN tags on cars' dashes?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:20 am
by LaureltheQueen
smart people keep their VINs covered up for that exact reason

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:03 am
by scottzg
ooh! a 14 year old car! i want to get booked for GTA because i made keys for this old thing!

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:15 am
by Legacy777
LaureltheQueen wrote:you generally have to have proof of ownership, but many dealerships don't require ID to cut keys. There have been a few busts within the last few years. The local honda dealership got pwn3d for it a while back.

I've worked at thesubaru dealership my car was originally purchased from and have done background checks there, and at the local dealership when I lived with my mother. Neither could pull up the key code
Did you see my post.....do you have the original key that came with the car?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:16 pm
by Busdriver
Does the original key say Datsun on it??

I have two of these keys, both are soooper worn, since nobody could read the key code off the key or off the vin I had to get a key cut to the less worn down one...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:01 pm
by professor
I faced this problem with my BMW last year...

My original key was broken off by my ex in the passenger's door, two attempts by the dealer to get new ones by VIN did not work (incompetence ? the car is unaltered) so all I had left was the stub.

A locksmith pulled it, compared it to the failed dealer attempts, then hammered the stub flat and cut a new key. It worked in some cylinders but not others, it was too crisp. By "dulling" the key down a bit and tweeking, he got it to work in all, then cut a couple others

locksmiths are like miracle workers sometimes, I'd go find a good one