Shimmy Shimmy Shake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:19 am
I am tired of my ongoing handling issues. I had the air suspension and swapped in used springs and new struts in the rear. Somewhat used struts in front. Seem to have lots of dampening left when hitting bumps and whatnot. Before swap ride was crap but solid (more or less). Afterwards, problems (listed below). Replacing my balljoints tightened up my steering and helped stabilise things a lot, and I know I need an alignment pronto, but I can't help but think there might be something else.
Symptoms:
Oversteer! Feels like I'm diving into turn WAY too much, and corrections on the highway seem to over-correct. I accidently caught the edge of the road today (snow over everything!) and when I pulled back to the left it way over compensated and I nealry ended up in the next lane. Pulling back to the right offered the same response. A bit scary.
Difficulty tracking straight. Seems to want to wander slightly, and the oversteer makes corrections annoying.
Now this alone I'd chock up to bad alignment. But two things. One is that as far as I can tell, it would be mostly a toe issue. But my tie-rods have not been adjusted since I've owned the car. Would replacing the air with the regular suspension change the way the toe moves in?
Secondly, front-end wobble - when moving the wheel back and forth quickly while driving at highway speeds, the front end seems to wobble back and forth afterwards for a second. The wobble seems to indicate something it not quite tight or is worn.
Checked tie-rods - no excessive play. OUters may be a little flexible, but no play in them. inners tight.
Wheel bearings - seem fine, no drone, pulling out on the wheel shows no play.
Springs seems strong, cannot twist them with weight on them. If I grad a couple of loops with my hand, I can just slightly pinch them together, but it doesn't loosen the spring.
CV shafts (front) new. No problems there.
Sway bar tight.
Nothing seems bent or out of shape.
I want to get an alignment, but feel there is little point if I need to fix something else first. Lifetime alignments are not available here. On a fixed budget.
Suggestions? If it is just the alignment, then what would be the issue most likely? I just don't trust any mechanic I've ever met.
Thanks folks!
Symptoms:
Oversteer! Feels like I'm diving into turn WAY too much, and corrections on the highway seem to over-correct. I accidently caught the edge of the road today (snow over everything!) and when I pulled back to the left it way over compensated and I nealry ended up in the next lane. Pulling back to the right offered the same response. A bit scary.
Difficulty tracking straight. Seems to want to wander slightly, and the oversteer makes corrections annoying.
Now this alone I'd chock up to bad alignment. But two things. One is that as far as I can tell, it would be mostly a toe issue. But my tie-rods have not been adjusted since I've owned the car. Would replacing the air with the regular suspension change the way the toe moves in?
Secondly, front-end wobble - when moving the wheel back and forth quickly while driving at highway speeds, the front end seems to wobble back and forth afterwards for a second. The wobble seems to indicate something it not quite tight or is worn.
Checked tie-rods - no excessive play. OUters may be a little flexible, but no play in them. inners tight.
Wheel bearings - seem fine, no drone, pulling out on the wheel shows no play.
Springs seems strong, cannot twist them with weight on them. If I grad a couple of loops with my hand, I can just slightly pinch them together, but it doesn't loosen the spring.
CV shafts (front) new. No problems there.
Sway bar tight.
Nothing seems bent or out of shape.
I want to get an alignment, but feel there is little point if I need to fix something else first. Lifetime alignments are not available here. On a fixed budget.
Suggestions? If it is just the alignment, then what would be the issue most likely? I just don't trust any mechanic I've ever met.
Thanks folks!