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This is more an Impreza question, but a general electronic question as well.


I upgraded the Forester with an OEM Keyless Entry system. Easy enough. But I still drive in DC daily, and I'm nervous about the car. Ever since the Legacy got broken into, I don't trust no one.

So I want to upgrade the factory keyless entry system, with the factory security upgrade.

That's all well and good, and I'm probably going to get it, but I want to modify that even further. To the tune of a second siren.

I originally intended to mount the primary siren somewhere inside the passenger cabin of the car. This, I figured, would ward off would-be theives. They break in, they must endure a loud speaker.

But if it goes off, the speaker being inside the car will hinder it's external range. I.E. I won't hear it from inside (as I would be able to if the speaker were mounted in the standard location).

So how would I go about rigging up a second siren under-hood? Are there any sirens recomended over a stock unit?

It'll be funny when I get the kit installed. When you lock the car, the horn beeps (only if the car has the security system upgrade though). The hitch, is that in addition to the factory horns, I've got 2 sets of dual-tone 135db air-horns that will be going in shortly. Talk about bitchin!

Once I mount the rear-lights and get another set of frontal lights, my Forester will be the most annoying car on the road. A grand total of 8 frontal lights, 2 rear-facing driving lights (for general lighting use, not for highway use), and 4 air horns. And if I get the bumper I'm looking at, then people better watch out which lesbian mobile they piss off!

Input would be great!

It depends on how the alarm is setup, and its output to the siren.

For example, my clifford has multiple wires (multiple tones) going to the siren, so you really can't tap into any of those wires without knowing what they do.

If the siren is your standard siren with a positive and negative lead, you could just tap into that lead, run that to a relay and wire up all your extra sirens/horns, etc.

Other option, the alarm brain my have an optional pin for an additional alarm. Mine does, and I hooked up the car's horn circuit. I now have the standard alarm going off, as well as the hella horns and stock horns.

Is this primarily anti-theft for the car or the belongings? I had a second ignition switch in my old GL that I hid very cleverly in the dash, leaving the original one in the steering colmn as a dummy. It was actually a stupid episode on my part that led to it and not paranoia, but it would've been an affective deterrent if someone had actually wanted to steal the thing.

Steve

I have almost a complete system for an 00-01 impreza. Including another siren. I can give it to you for cheap if you want it. As for tapping into the system, its a basic code alarm system, so there is no tapping in for an extra pin. But you could run the sirens in parallel and see if that works.

Well, the kit is the same for the 98 - 01 impreza. How much would you want for it? Cheap would be nice since the Forester has a hole in the radiator...

I will pull just the siren (if that is all you want ) put it in a small box and see how much shipping to you would be. PM me your address.

Are you trying to prevent the car from being stolen or are you trying to make it anoying for the thief for the 15 seconds it will take him to pop the hood and cut the bat cable? I have found the the best deterant is clear visual that you have a good alarm. Thieves just go to the next car. Clifford has a distinct led known to many. also location is everything. an led mounted in a location other than some plastic pop out piece in the dash indicates a superior install and usually a better product. If you want to know how to wire two sirens I can tell you how to wire up a relay... let me know

I can wire a relay, just wanted to know if there was a better way.

Mike, can you buy the Clifford LED's seperately?

I'm trying to prevent the car from being broken into AND from being stolen too.

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as far as wanting to keep the car from being stolen, you cant go with a factory alarm. thats a joke. From what I can see, although I've never met you, you seem to put a ton of money into your car in performance mods. I'm only saying that cause I put 8k into mine and I'm sure yours is faster lol. Anyway, spend 500 on a clifford alarm and dont mess with all this factory add on crap. you can get great features on a clifford like a radar sensor that will pick someone up before they even touch the car and things like this. It doesn't make sense to me to buy a shitty alarm and try and make it better with an extra siren. I am here if you have more questions...

Ditto what Mike said. Clifford makes some good shit. My Clifford was 400 bucks back in 96 or so. 200 to install it. I don't regret spending the money on it instead of stereo stuff.

My intelliguard has a dual zone proximity sensor (the radar sensor Mike mentioned) add on shock sensor, as well as hood, trunk, and door pins. Plus it has optional features that are a nice touch. They're definitely very nice alarms. i've been extremely happy with mine.

What else does it do though? I know around here I'd be happy if someone stole a damn car with the alarm going off just so I wouldn't have to hear it anymore. Do they have clever kill switches or anything? Were it not for the risk with a potential false trigger, I'd love to set up something to displace the air or otherwise kill the occupant while locking them in. A pleasant smell added in case you caught a prick in the summer might be a good idea, too.

The dude in England who rigged his car to an electric fence was awesome.

Sadly, booby trapping your car is illegal. If it was not, I would have wired the battery to two thin strips on the steering wheel and shift knob so if it was touched while the car was armed it would give you one hell of a shock.

Adding the factory system is the basic step to take in theft prevention. But if you have quite a bit invested into the car, a real alarm system is a must. The impreza has the basic factory alarm, but the legacy has one of the top of the line Cliffords put in a year ago. When I get a few more parts into the impreza, it too will get an alarm change to a clifford.

Stealing's illegal too. The point is to kill the guy so he can't sue. And if no one finds a body ... The cops won't look hard anyway and nobody will be able to connect you or even know where the prick was last since I doubt he'd inform everyone of what he was doing and where. In Boston there's a couple people getting shot nearly every day and they've caught almost none of them (including some kids with a recording studio in their basement and no ties to gangs that were executed in broad daylight at home). Cops don't care about pricks (or minorities apparently), which is I guess their only saving grace. Kill an attractive white girl, though, and they're all over you it seems. Hell, I'd even burn my car to hide evidence of the bastard I killed to protect it from theft. Maybe I saw Usual Suspects when they talk about Kaiser Soze too many times.

People don't care anymore. That and parents don't RAISE their children right anymore. That is why I lOVE Japan. They still have a sense of HONOR and MORALS over there. you can leave the keys in the car and not worry.

But I agree with you on some parts. Being a LEO, I see people do shit that you would go WTF ( as ANY NORMAL person would know better)

The clifford does have a starter interupt circuit, and can be tied to the ignition as well. I did not have mine tied to the ignition for the reason, in the event of a malfunction or what not, the car would die, and could leave you stranded.

The higher end cliffords can go as far as adding lowjack and I'm sure other stuff.

You know the biggest deterent is that damn red blinky light. If someone wants your car, they're going to take it. Plain and simple. But the alarm deters the would-be thiefs for something easier.

I have a good example. One of the engineers I used to work with had a truck with a red blinky light, no real alarm. He and another coworker had their cars parked somewhere, and the other coworker's car got broken into. His did not.

I suppose you could say that's chance and whatever....but I think it does work.

Another thing I like about the clifford's with the proximity sensor is that if someone is just looking at the car trying to see what's inside.....they get a rude awakening when you hear this loud brapp noise from the proximity sensor.

Tell ya what.....I record it for you....so you have an idea of what it sounds like. It can catch you off guard if you're not expecting it.

So the proximity sensor sends out a warning, but doesn't just start blaring? Sounds pretty cool. I agree about the blinking light thing and it's the same with locks on things for the most part - an unset lock that looks locked is almost as good as a locked one due to the visual deterrence. Anyone undeterred by a lock has the means to get around it actually locked or not. A lot of stores have dummy alarm pillars at the doors for the same reason.

It depends on the model. My alarm has a dual zone proximity sensor. If you break the exterior zone you get a warning. If you break the interior zone, the alarm goes off.

It's more useful for convertibles and jeeps.....or if you leave your windows down.

My clifford was so touchy that if you parked within 3 feet of it, it set off the proximity warning. I adjusted it and now it will set it off if you touch the car.

But a blinky light is better than nothing.

These recordings don't do it justice, but you get the idea.

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... alarm1.wav
http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... alarm2.wav

the best part about it is that you can adjust the 2 zones with the remote control in a teaching sequence. Also, you can arm the alarm and different key stroke disable the sensor but keep all other zones active. I would do this when I would park at the movies or something. Most of the time I would think that the firsat zone would scare someone and piss them off enough to key the car.

Yeah.....I've got my exterior zone pretty close to the car. Plus I park in BFE when I can......