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Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:00 pm**

...Shifting.

I decided that today, instead of my bi-weekly routine of riding the bike to my 11am class, that I'd take the Legacy for a little road testing.

It's legal enough since I kinda put the bumper on.

I've probably put a hundred miles on the Dogbox since I got it, so I am still getting used to it, but I wanted to get a video so you guys could see what a manual transmission is capable of. Plus, I thought it would be cool.

So, I've been building my confidence in the tranny and in my arms and legs, and felt confident enough to do a WOT, clutchless, shift.

I got, on video, my first attempt.

What an amazing device, the DogBox. It was almost seemless acceleration. Like an automatic, only cooler sounding and not as shitty. When I let off the gas to shift, gauge bottomed to vacuum and when I was back on it, it was right back to 10psi. Not even a pause. Just a continual forward surge with a short breath in between the shift.

When I was done, I was in awe at what had happened. Almost unbelievable.

Sorry about the video quality. Cellphone video with my phone on the passenger seat proped against a soda bottle and my backpack.

Gives a good idea of the noise associated with a dog box too...

Without anything further...

http://www.thawa.net/bac52/Video/dog%20shift.3g2

Enjoy. Respect Hardy and please Save-As.

Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:14 pm**

I can't open the file...

Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:22 pm**

Because you need the newest free version of Quicktime to view.

Posted: **Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:49 pm**

Hahaha, that's some fuckin' pimp ass shit, I love it! The crack of the tranny mixed with your bov sounded crackalishes. Ahhhhhh, sprinkle sprinkle, sprinkle.

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 6:36 pm**

96 views, 3 replies? What gives?

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 6:45 pm**

They're all trying to figure out to express the coolness that is shifting with a dogbox.

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 7:03 pm**

I'm just too envious. I want a dogbox. Bad.

Too cool.

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 8:48 pm**

BAC5.2 wrote:96 views, 3 replies? What gives?

Yeah, that's like my hillclimb video. Lots of views and hardly any comments.

At least I responded to yours.

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 8:51 pm**

Yes, I am quite envious...

We may be contacting you guys in the not-too-distant future to get a dogbox built for one of the NW Boxerwerks Rally Cars...

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 8:52 pm**

Before you call, shoot me a PM.

This box will actually be for sale at the beginning of summer...

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 9:07 pm**

oh hell yes Phil, hell yes

(finally got around to installing Quicktime on the new lappy)

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 11:49 pm**

That doesn't seem too loud, but its probably louder in person.

Posted: **Mon May 01, 2006 11:50 pm**

quicktime for the lose.. can't view it at work

Posted: **Tue May 02, 2006 12:17 am**

MT with AT feel...best of both worlds..I guess. It's just clunky and loud as all hell.

Posted: **Tue May 02, 2006 3:26 am**

lctwolf30 wrote:That doesn't seem too loud, but its probably louder in person.

Car in general is pretty loud. The gears are fairly quiet. This dogbox is actually not as noisy as the straight cut synchro box I had.

But this gearset has a helical second. Inside the car, it's pretty sleeper (though 3rd screams a bit). Outside the car, every gear is very loud from what people say.

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 12:40 am**

cool.

how was that shot though? Camera sitting on the passenger seat?

I mounted a camera on a tripod in the back. things turn out pretty well except for not paying attention to the road:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 17837639&q

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 1:18 am**

Thats funny.

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 2:14 am**

What's funny Dan?

Jamal - Phone sitting on my passenger seat propped against my backpack and a soda bottle. Sound picked up OK. Least you could hear the CLACK!

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 2:32 am**

his video of missing the stopsign.

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 10:05 am**

How much faster is it really? Are you waiting for the engine to spin down between shifts?

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 4:20 pm**

No, I'm not waiting for the engine to spin down.

When I hit 6500, lift off the throttle and yank back on the the shifter simultaneously, immediately slam the throttle open again.

If you watch how fast my leg is moving, I'm in 2nd gear before my foot pushes back down on the gas, and my foot isn't off the gas for very long.

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 7:19 pm**

sweet

Posted: **Thu May 04, 2006 8:32 pm**

what about downshifting?

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2006 3:26 pm**

What about it?

Downshifting works the same way. Just revmatch and shove it into gear without the clutch.

Ask RallySam. I was doing 20mph clutchless downshifts into 1st gear yesterday.

It was neat

Posted: **Fri May 05, 2006 3:34 pm**

Out of curiousity, how do dogbox's do in incliment weather where traction is an issue? Do you have many dogs on winter cars?

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