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Flywheel and clutch questions

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:24 am
by realfinn
Hey guys, puttin the EJ22T in my Legacy L. I have a 5sp manual FWD right now. The question is can I use the flywheel off the NA or do I need a turbo specific flywheel?

As far as I know the turbo legacy's have hydraulic clutches. Being that I want to keep mine FWD for a while that takes out the possibility of using a turbo clutch. I want to get a beefier clutch to reduce slippage. Anyone know where I can get a "street/strip" style clutch that will fit into the fwd legacy?

Thanks!

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:32 pm
by Legacy777
You shouldn't have to change anything on the transmission side. If you get a 2.5 RS flywheel, you can run a clutch/pp setup from them.

The key to all the flywheel & clutch swapping stuff is to keep the set (flywheel, clutch, & pp) matched to whatever vehichle/model you're wanting to use.....(as long as it's the correct clutch configuration)

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:06 pm
by Project_Legacy
even though the 2.5 RS is AWD? i was looking around as well, for my FWD Impreza. they would have different part numbers for FWD 1.8 Impreza, and AWD 1.8 Impreza. there was a different spline count also, the site had said.

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:00 pm
by realfinn
Project_Legacy wrote:even though the 2.5 RS is AWD? i was looking around as well, for my FWD Impreza. they would have different part numbers for FWD 1.8 Impreza, and AWD 1.8 Impreza. there was a different spline count also, the site had said.
I second that...I thought AWD Clutches were different than FWD. I could be wrong...you guys know a lot more about Legacy's than I do.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:04 am
by Legacy777
The info I have does not show any difference between the FWD & AWD legacy clutches.

It's possible the new 2.5 RS clutches are different from the early legacy clutches. But, like I said, if you use a 2.5 RS flywheel, clutch, & pp.....you should be fine.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:34 am
by realfinn
I don't know too much about the 2.5RS are all 2.5RS pp, clutches, and flywheels the same regardless of year? Do you happen to know of any place that sell cheap RS parts?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:37 am
by douglas vincent
Once again I preach the power of cheapness.

Ebay Forester flywheel $40ish

Ebay 02 USED RS pressure plate $25-40?

$99 Kennedy 6 puck disk from Discount Import Parts.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:45 am
by scuzzy
douglas vincent wrote:Once again I preach the power of cheapness.

Ebay Forester flywheel $40ish

Ebay 02 USED RS pressure plate $25-40?

$99 Kennedy 6 puck disk from Discount Import Parts.
Trashed gearset from too many high rpm dumps:
PRICELESS!!!

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:01 am
by Project_Legacy
that would happen with any AWD eventually, wouldnt it? is there any difference between an impreza FWD tranny, and a legacy FWD tranny?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:14 am
by realfinn
douglas vincent wrote:Once again I preach the power of cheapness.

Ebay Forester flywheel $40ish

Ebay 02 USED RS pressure plate $25-40?

$99 Kennedy 6 puck disk from Discount Import Parts.
Hey doug, you are running fwd? Or are you running a non-hydraulic awd cluth/tranny setup? Pardon my noobness but the Forester flywheel is better than the stock flywheel thats already in my FWD NA? What is the difference in the two (same goes for the pp)?

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:54 pm
by douglas vincent
Havent trashed a tranny yet due to racing. Misshift in traffic yes, but not drag racing.


I am not FWD. But if you are going to be putting out alot of power, a stock NA disk will fail.

The forester flywheel is very heavy and absorbs alot of shock in my opinion. And it was new and cheap.

The RS pressure plate has more clamping force than a stock legacy, I THINK, I very well could be wrong. And once again, it was CHEAP.

And it all works awesome.

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:16 pm
by Project_Legacy
does anyone know for sure if AWD N/A clutch/flywheel/pressure plates will work on FWD set-ups??

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:48 am
by Legacy777
Project_Legacy wrote:does anyone know for sure if AWD N/A clutch/flywheel/pressure plates will work on FWD set-ups??
The engine is not different between FWD & AWD cars. Nor is the spline count/spacing on the transmission input shaft.

logic would imply.........what?



Sorry if I'm sounding like a turd....but I feel like this question has been answered, and beaten to death.

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:54 am
by Project_Legacy
i just wanted to know if someone is actually running an AWD clutch on a FWD tranny. someone who actually has done it. thats all. i just got conflicting information from a website, saying it was different.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:29 pm
by Legacy777
Ok....I'm sorry for snapping then.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:02 am
by Project_Legacy
its ok dood. :D

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:20 pm
by Subaru for Life
Project_Legacy wrote:its ok dood. :D
No it's not okay, don't take any crap from Josh... :lol:

Now let's make him explain again from the beginning :P

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:09 pm
by Project_Legacy
LoL. :lol:

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:32 am
by Legacy Rally Guy
I purchased a full race 6 puck clutch/pressure plate/ TO Bearing kit... It'll hold up to 500 HP. I'm building for about 300.
It was designed for my 91 SS, however it was $377.00

I wasn't owned, I just bought retail...

Too bad I didn't know about the cheaper alternative of impreza based upgrades...

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:43 am
by 206er
exedy stage 1 on ebay for 160
with a clutch in good shape, I would be more worried about spinnin the tars.

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:56 pm
by BAC5.2
206er wrote:exedy stage 1 on ebay for 160
with a clutch in good shape, I would be more worried about spinnin the tars.
You should be more worried about spinning your input-shaft free of the teeth which reside on it.

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:56 am
by realfinn
Ok, so the forester flywheels are meatier than the FWD flywheels. But what if I used a stock Legacy AWD NA - Flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch?

Another (maybe stupid) question. The car this is all going into has about 90 kmiles on it. Do I need to replace throw out bearings/pilot bearings?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:27 pm
by douglas vincent
yes to the throw bearing

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:45 pm
by realfinn
Ok, just reporting back to everyone. 98 RS Flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch all do fit nicely with this combo.

And now that she's runnin boy is she fun...no slips!