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rear lateral/control arm bushes
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:25 pm
by MY92
does anyone have the sti part # for these items? or recommend a good replacement for blown out oem rubber bushes.
cheers
Re: rear lateral/control arm bushes
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:30 pm
by Subaru for Life
This is where I got mine from, probably one of the cheapest around. No need for the part number, it's already sorted out for ya.
Pye
MY92 wrote:does anyone have the sti part # for these items? or recommend a good replacement for blown out oem rubber bushes.
cheers
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:17 am
by MY92
Where exactly?
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:07 am
by Subaru for Life
Sorry, was at work and got busy
If you need more info. just shoot an email to Jamie (Parts manager), or give her a call. She's very helpful.
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/adva ... 3ff47efa52
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:55 am
by 93forestpearl
The SuperPro rear lateral link set is cheaper than those STi bushings. $89.95 for the set.
http://www.boxer4racing.com/
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:46 am
by scottzg
but they're polyurethane

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:13 am
by MY92
And?
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:56 am
by THAWA
Poly sucks.
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:50 pm
by 93forestpearl
And why does polyurathane "suck"?
There may be more NVH, but poly is stiffer and more durable. Why the hate?
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:14 pm
by 206er
squeaks?
I'm sure if you would price factory bushings, the poly ones would be as cheap or cheaper.
me, I want to machine some bushings out of delrin.

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:41 pm
by MY92
Other than 'sucks' as a reason, does anyone else have a view on poly bushes in the control arms?
Josh? you out there.
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:12 pm
by THAWA
Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.
Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.
Spherical would be the way to go I say.
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:15 pm
by MY92
Good come back
I might look into the STi bushings then.
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:43 pm
by 93forestpearl
THAWA wrote:Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.
Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.
Spherical would be the way to go I say.
Is that your opinion that poly is less durable? I've never heard complaints like that againt polyurathane. The SuperPro bushings have a texture on the inside that holds the lube agaist the pin. A common mistake is people don't use enough of the speacial lube, or use something petrolium based. That, of course, will destroy the bushing.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:33 am
by THAWA
It's a fact.
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:51 am
by 93forestpearl
Ok, its a fact, but I'm just wondering who out there has had problems, and under what application(s).
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:43 am
by Legacy777
I don't have the info on the lateral links because I used the whiteline adj. links that come with poly bushings.
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:31 am
by scottzg
93forestpearl wrote:THAWA wrote:Poly is much less durable than rubber. Depending on the place of the bushing and how it moves, a poly one will destroy itself on the inner race with normal use. Radial movement is horrible for poly bushings.
Also, you can definately make a rubber bushing that has a higher durometer than most poly.
Spherical would be the way to go I say.
Is that your opinion that poly is less durable? I've never heard complaints like that againt polyurathane. The SuperPro bushings have a texture on the inside that holds the lube agaist the pin. A common mistake is people don't use enough of the speacial lube, or use something petrolium based. That, of course, will destroy the bushing.
ive personally seen a set of PU bushings on a vw that were so tight the suspension couldnt go to full droop as fast as i could jack it up, and then a 25k later they were so loose that you could feel the slop while driving the car. I imagine constant lube maintenance would make them last longer(i dont have a clue how those were maintained beyond that the original lube was done correctly), but why bother when you can get a more appropriate part for the application?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:41 pm
by 93forestpearl
After doing a little research, ahem, I found that poly bushings are one of those things that will work great, but require regular maintenence. If they are squeaking, that means the pin is sliding against the poly without lube. That is when they start to destroy themselves. Polyurathane is sticky (think rollerblade wheels) and without plenty of lubrication, will get torn apart.
You gotta give a little to get a little.
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:10 pm
by MY92
So PU only for serious cars then.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:06 am
by THAWA
PU only for people that have time to constantly lube.
Spherical for serious cars.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:06 pm
by Legacy777
I really think the lube thing with PU is over exagerated. I've got poly bushings on my lateral links & front & rear anti-sway bars and haven't messed with them at all....they don't squeak, and I haven't had any issues.
I think I regreased the rear anti-sway when I took everything apart for the AWD swap....but that'd just be stupid of me not to.....
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:52 pm
by THAWA
It's not overexagerated, it just depends on where the bushing is used, and how forces are being applied to it.
The VW thing isn't uncommon because of the placement of the bushing and where the forces are being applied.
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:22 pm
by MY92
I got a bargin on some PU bushes yesterday for the control arms and the trailing arms.
Will report on them once the're in.
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:27 am
by scottzg
THAWA wrote:The VW thing isn't uncommon because of the placement of the bushing and where the forces are being applied.
serious, the bushings on the torsion beam were HAMMERED. Must be because they influence the camber in the rear. The front was what made the car hard to drive though, because the steering was all sloppy and the car was kinda darty.
pu is fine where it isn't supposed to move, like on the steering rack or on the bottoms of droplinks- i have PU there myself.
as for over-exaggerated, although the 'net tends to do that, i only am speaking from experience. good luck!