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Couple clutch/pp questions

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:03 pm
by Bosco
So, I got this Legacy wagon with a blown engine for cheap.
I put in a spare engine I had in the barn.
This was My first time ever swapping an engine, and with no help to boot!
Natuarlly I was overjoyed to find that it actually started and ran prefectly... YAY!

The folks that sold me the car told me the clutch was in good shape and the motor just seized when moving it from the yard it was for sale in to a different location.
(I found the cause of the blown 76k motor, btw... there was NO oil drain plug in it!!!)

OK, now to the point of this thread:
I go to drive the car and find the clucth to be slipping pretty badly.
I can get it to move in first without much trouble. In second it slips, but works. Third slips very badly... that's as far as i went.

Did I possibly do something worng when bolting the flywheel, clucth and pp to the new engine?
Keeping in mind I have never changed a clutch or swapped an engne before this, so this is all new to me.
I was thinking maybe I didn't tighten the pressure plate down hard enough... would that possibly do it?
I didn't think the clutch looked worn down to some extreme level when I had it out. (although I have never actually held a new clutch in my hand to compare.)

Thanks for listening,
-Bosco-

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:58 am
by entirelyturbo
Did you do anything with the clutch cable in all this?

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:25 am
by 92ss satinsvoice
what you tourqe it down to? the pp

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:29 am
by Bosco
subyluvr2212 wrote:Did you do anything with the clutch cable in all this?
Yes. I disconnected and reconnected it at the fork. I checked it out, and it seems to be fine.
92ss satinsvoice wrote:what you tourqe it down to? the pp
Um.... er....I dunno Image

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:50 am
by entirelyturbo
Edit: Sorry, I'm in the midst of doing homework, I'll try to be a little more helpful.

If you have your clutch cable tightened down too much, your clutch will slip. It's basically like riding around with your foot halfway on the pedal, if it were adjusted properly.

Try loosening the cable and see what happens. There should actually be some slack in it, enough where you can grab the end of the cable and wiggle it around on the fork a little bit.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:00 am
by Bosco
subyluvr2212 wrote:Well, how much did you tighten the cable down?
Not much at all actually. I slipped it on the fork, snugged it up and that was all.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:02 am
by entirelyturbo
Recheck my post, sorry for not being informative enough.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:15 am
by Bosco
subyluvr2212 wrote:"Try loosening the cable and see what happens"
Thanks for the suggestion (and for the explanatory edit), but that isn't what's happening. It's barely snugged up onto the fork.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:45 pm
by huck369
I replyed over at XT6.net

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:26 pm
by Bosco
I think I'm just gonna buy a new clutch kit for it... (and maybe a torque wrench)

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:47 am
by thefultonhow
Wow, you did an engine swap without a torque wrench?

I'm impressed, I guess. But it's important to follow torque specs religiously so that you don't break something and so that nothing falls off while you're driving.

A torque wrench was the first tool I ever bought, along with a 7-piece deep socket set. I finally ponied up for a full socket set and some box-ends when I did my Infiniti's engine swap. Still would like some combination wrenches, preferably with ratcheting box-ends, but I'll have to live with what I've got until I get some more money.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:35 pm
by Legacy777
Torque wrenches are semi overated if you've been wrenching for a while. With the exception being head bolts...

There's only a few things I use a torque wrench for.

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:06 am
by subytech
Legacy777 wrote:Torque wrenches are semi overated if you've been wrenching for a while. With the exception being head bolts...

There's only a few things I use a torque wrench for.
True pritty much the only things that we torque at the dealership i work at are headbolts(wich arnt really torqued anyway), crank pullys, and lug nuts (torque sitck)

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:50 am
by turboleg
When you are working with the clutch, pp, and flywheel its important to keep your hands clean of any dirt and grease. Once its on there its hard to get it off. It can cause some major slip problems.

I once watched a kid at a local shop grab a brand new clutch after doing an oil change (didn't clean his hands). After they started the truck up and tried moving it out of the shop it just sat in one place and slipped like crazy...I still razz that kid. :)