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Controlling 2 sets of lights with 3 switches

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:31 pm
by voodoochylde
I've got a cheapo set of no-name fogs under the bumper relayed to my lowbeams and a set of optilux 1900's on a redneck/homemade lightbar relayed to my highs. Right now, both are on their own SPST switch.

What I'm curious of is whether I can use an SPDT switch to control these guys. First on-position has regular functionality, center position is off obviously, while the second on-position would (in my "vision") make both sets of lamps come on simultaneously.

HOW?! I'm semi-electrically-inclined but I'm not an electrician by far. I've got a meter and enough patience to just sit and play with it for a few days at a time but help would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:56 pm
by Legacy777
Just some clarification, are you looking to turn both sets of lights on with a single switch? Or are you looking to do something more complicated?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:54 pm
by magicmike
I have something in mind but ned to draw it up somehow and post an image. you need to wire both sets through a relay and have the triggers of both relays going to the switch. one trigger from each relay on each pole of the switch. then you just need to connect a diode between the two trigger wires, aimed in the direction for which set you only want to trigger alone. its important to trigger the relays with a ground and use the ground at the SPDT stitch. play with the diode for correct lighting it it will work. I'll try to draw something up and post it when I have time.

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:25 pm
by mikec
Why not just connect whichever set you want on whenever the switch is on to both sides of the switch? Then connect the other set of lights to the Both position you've selected.

Obviously using relays to actually turn the lights on.

I don't see a need for any diodes.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:50 am
by magicmike
mikec wrote:Why not just connect whichever set you want on whenever the switch is on to both sides of the switch? Then connect the other set of lights to the Both position you've selected.

Obviously using relays to actually turn the lights on.

I don't see a need for any diodes.
well if you connect it like your saying when you only want to turn one set on it will be connected to the other side of the switch and it will turn both sets on. the switch needs to be switching the ground for the relays and the diode only lets the ground through in one direction so that both can come on in one way but the other way only one will come on but they are both connected at the same time. or just dont use a diode and use a DPDT switch instead. his choice.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:20 am
by mikec
I was thinking SPDT with a centre off position. The centre terminal would ground whichever relay(s) were necessary.

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:40 pm
by voodoochylde
magicmike wrote:I have something in mind but ned to draw it up somehow and post an image. you need to wire both sets through a relay and have the triggers of both relays going to the switch. one trigger from each relay on each pole of the switch. then you just need to connect a diode between the two trigger wires, aimed in the direction for which set you only want to trigger alone. its important to trigger the relays with a ground and use the ground at the SPDT stitch. play with the diode for correct lighting it it will work. I'll try to draw something up and post it when I have time.
This is kinda what I was thinking ('cept I hadn't thought of a diode). Just not sure how to do it...

To clarify my current setup. I've got a set of fogs triggered by my low-beams. These only work with my low-beams on and are activated by an SPST switch hooked to a relay which is triggered by my lows.

My driving lights are exactly the same except the relay they're on is triggered by my high-beams.

I currently don't have anything setup to turn either set on at will, they're both dependent of their respective beam selection.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:52 am
by magicmike
um I'm confused. why do you want the fogs on all the time and the driving lights only on with your highbeams? normally you have the fogs on a switch so you can turn those on when its um foggy and the driving light should be able to come on with your parking lights and not dependant on your headlights. All lights should shut off when the highbeams are triggered.