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Subaru to unveil diesel drivetrain at Geneva

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:38 pm
by entirelyturbo

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:21 pm
by DLC
I have a very hi-res version of that image. I must have stared at the details for a half hour...it's very cool.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:48 am
by AWD_addict
Coolness, I'll have a daily driver Legacy that smells like fries.

Care to share the hi-res?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:16 am
by 555BCTurbo
I think I will have a Diesel Legacy Rallycar in my future

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:33 am
by evolutionmovement
When I build my own car I'm going to get one of these to power it providing it's no wider than the EJ.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:05 am
by entirelyturbo
As big of a Subaru fan as I am, I would hold off on owning one just yet.

It is something completely new for Subaru. Not just the diesel in general, but the direct injection (which I believe I see in that photo).

Plus, as the article said, there has never been a boxer diesel before.

I am quite curious as to how high it can rev though. It may have a heavier diesel bottom end, but it's still an inherently balanced engine.

Time will tell. Let's see how it does in real-world use.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:09 am
by 555BCTurbo
Direct injection is not a new thing by any means...

And is the simplest way to make a diesel

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:15 am
by Splinter
555BCTurbo wrote:Direct injection is not a new thing by any means...
Its new for Subaru.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:39 am
by 206er
I'd definitely be waiting a few years to see how they turn out before getting one. knowing subaru theyll most likely be one hell of an engine though.
DLC can you post or link to that high res pic, the small one makes my eyes hurt.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:46 am
by evolutionmovement
They go hand in hand. Direct gas injection stems from diesels and isn't new tech at all. The only worry I can think of would be head gaskets, but it's a 2.0. I still would bet the 2.2 closed deck could handle diesel use. The bottom end is about as strong an aluminum block as you can get. Honda's had an alloy diesel and I'm not aware of any problems (not sold here, though).

Just got to keep an eye on the gas gauge. It's easy to forget you need it with a diesel and then you have to purge the fuel system. I think this would be sick in a sub-2000 lbs 3-wheeler.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:46 am
by Splinter
Subaru likes to royally screw things up once before they do something amazing

See: EA, EJ engines.

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:54 am
by 555BCTurbo
They didn't screw anything up EJ related until the EJ251 came out

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:19 am
by entirelyturbo
What about the EJ25D?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:28 am
by 555BCTurbo
that's what I meant by EJ251...was I wrong with the code?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:36 am
by entirelyturbo
[nerd]EJ25D is the 96-99 DOHC 2.5 engine. EJ251 is the first itineration of the SOHC 2.5.[/nerd]

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:30 am
by TheSubaruJunkie
And for the record, they didnt screw up the EA until they overhauled it and added timing belts with the EA82. The EA81 was, and still is a very bulletproof design, capable of 500,000+ miles.

Regardless, i welcome the subaru diesel to the industry, just hope they roll with it and dont give up after 3 years.

-Brian

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:10 am
by evolutionmovement
The EA81 was the last of the ohv EAs and were great motors with a fun punch of torque off the line for such a small engine, but the earlier EAs from the '70's were terrible on HGs. My mechanic said he used to line them up all day long.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:28 am
by 93forestpearl
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Do I see variable valve timing? Also, the diriect injection fits nicely where a spark plug would be.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:05 am
by entirelyturbo

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:57 am
by DLC
Very nice video.

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:43 am
by 555BCTurbo
That video made me giddy...I will SO be buying a Turbo Diesel Legacy when it comes out!!!!! :D

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:58 pm
by Splinter
Whats with the turbo placement?

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:38 pm
by Legacy777
Turbo looks like it has variable diffuser vanes....pretty cool.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:45 am
by Bheinen74
wow, timing chain instead of belt

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:35 pm
by greg donovan
Bheinen74 wrote:wow, timing chain instead of belt
the EZ30 uses a timing chain too.