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legacy tire eater

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:21 am
by ej22t kid
So I have some custom coil-overs with camber plates and 1453 koni sports on MY91 turbo and I’m running 1.5 degrees camber and just a hair toe-in.

I go through front tires in almost a month and a half, yes even with rotating them, the camber eats them like a fat kid with chocolate cake and a tall class of milk.

My question is more a survey of what others are running and any tricks to long life expectancies for my tires, what tires, camber, toe, and even caster?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:13 am
by ultrasonic
What is the wear pattern you are seeing on the tires? Even across the tread? Heavy on the inside edge, or outside edge?

I assume you mean NEGATIVE 1.5 degrees.

You could go to zero toe all around, which would probably help. Plenty of guys run -1.5 camber and more without the problem you're describing.

I run about -1.2 degrees camber in the front (wish I could get more) and -0.8 rear. I have plenty of outside edge wear. I rotate every other oil change, or more often.

What kind of tires are you using?
What tire pressure do you run?
What kind of driving do you do? Track? Autox?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:52 pm
by BAC5.2
It's probably because your toe is all fucked up.

I ran 2.5 degrees on my car without any issues. A coworker ran like 3.8 front and 4.0 rear on R-compounds.

Get a real alignment, and back the toe close to zero.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:11 pm
by IronMonkeyL255
BAC5.2 wrote:It's probably because your toe is all fucked up.

I ran 2.5 degrees on my car without any issues. A coworker ran like 3.8 front and 4.0 rear on R-compounds.

Get a real alignment, and back the toe close to zero.
+1 on this.

I had just a bit of toe and it wore through my old Falkens pretty quick.

I see cars in all the time with screwed up tires because of toe. Most of the time with less than half a degree.

If you do any aggressive cornering, the camber won't matter that much. It is toe that really eats the tires fast.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:50 pm
by Imprezive
toe measured in degrees? I thought it was measured in inches, like 1/8 or 1/16th :P

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:17 pm
by BAC5.2
It can be measured either way. We measure it in inches. It can be done in degrees too.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:04 am
by IronMonkeyL255
Our alignment machine measures it in degrees, so that's what I'm used to.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:43 am
by ej22t kid
Yea i have heard that the toe is the key in tire wear yet i am only running between 1/62 and 1/32 of toe-in. the guy that did my alignment is well known in my area for his abilities and knowledge of understanding the set up of a more race oriented style suspension although when everyone tells me its toe that eats the tires, he said it was camber. This made me question his expertise.

the tires i had were the Falken Zeix 512 max psi of 40 I ran 40 then lowered it to 38psi
I’m getting Falken Azenis RT-615 in a few days summer is here

This car is my daily, which takes me through some canyons and basic city. But don’t get me wrong it is hard driving home and acknowledge the 20mph warning and not taking it at 45+mph (Staying in my lane of course)