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Legacy Turbo vs 98 Prelude

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 8:56 pm
by LegacyT
I know this guy who just bought a (stock) 98 honda Prelude and thinks he can smoke my car. I told him no. So we have arranged to race sometime in the spring. Anway how quick can I expect my car to be after it gets an intercooler, while running 13 pounds of boost and gets a 3 inch exhaust? Could I take his stock prelude (other than a cold air)?

Mark,

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 9:55 pm
by entirelyturbo
Mark, could you ask a more serious question, please? :lol: He would look like he's going in reverse! I've driven a 2000 Prelude, and although it's fast, your car has the same engine size, more torque b/c his is all top-end, plus you have a torque-happy turbo, all-wheel-drive, and you're gonna run 13lbs boost? He needs to rethink his statement... Even if he does a little more to his car, it's not gonna happen. You basically have a little WRX right there!

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 3:21 pm
by boostjunkie
Don't worry . . .

I don't even bother with preludes . . . the first FIVE that tried to race me (seems like everyone who owns a prelude in these parts is a "streetracer" lol) got their arses handed to them many a times.

I didn't even get so much as a wave from any of them when I slowed down for them. :roll:

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 8:47 pm
by LegacyT
Sweet! Thanks for the support, I really want to smoke this guy. He's all hype about his new prelude. I can't wait to see his expression when he loses to a 13 year old four door sedan :twisted:

Thanks,
Mark

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 9:21 pm
by boostjunkie
Just to wet your appetite a little more . . .

A day after I got the car I was driving along with a friend of mine when I spotted this silver 98-99 prelude SH. From what I could tell when he opened up, he had an intake, definitely an exhaust. I was in second when i heard him open up . . . blasted through second, shifted to third . . . had him by the middle of third (his front bumper was at my rear bumper) . . .

Mind you, I started BEHIND him an overtook him. lol!

The guy tried a couple more times with the same results. He pulled up next to me and was screaming about what a POS car I drove . . . I just looked over and told him . . . if my POS beat your car, what does that tell you?

For the record, I haven't gotten any props from people (well, there was a guy in a Mustang GT that waved) for the car, but that makes my "wins" that much sweeter:)

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2003 11:11 pm
by LegacyT
Damn thats awesome! Why was the guy such a prick, raving at your car? Do you have an EGT? If so how hot does your exhaust get? And I presume your still running the stock ECU? You glad you traded the GT for this beast?

Mark

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 12:23 am
by IggDawg
yeah. don't worry. you could take him in traffic, and there's no way he could take you off the line with even the best launch attempt. you have the almighty turbo+AWD launch combo. I'm running 10-11 lbs of boost right now, non-intercooled... otherwise stock. I'm running 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. that's getting close to legacy RS territory. And I'm 4EAT. If I wsa running 2-4 more lbs of boost with an intercooler... muahahahaha.... you get the idea......

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 1:06 am
by ciper
Just challenge him on a road with lots of gravel, he wont even be moving by the time you reach 15mph...

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 1:31 am
by LegacyT
10-11 psi and a 0-60 of 6.8 on a 4EAT thats pretty good. I wonder how fast a 5MT would be with the same boost? I've also realized that the AWD launch can be very vicious, especially with a unsuspecting competitor :P I want to get my car done. It needs some body work and its getting new paint :D So far I've only driven it locally (subdivision) and only been up to 3rd and 110 km/h :x . But soon it'll be ready :D

Mark,

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 5:49 am
by 91White-T
the AWD launch has surprised quite a few "streetracers" that never came close to seeing it coming... lol

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 2:58 pm
by IggDawg
Yeah. AWD launch is scarry. especially if it's wet or snowy out. they expect people to take it easy to avoid tirespin just like them. then they see all 4 spin for a fraction of a second before teh car catches up. Its soooooo mean.

With the AT I can launch from 3000-3200 RPMs after vacuum locking the brakes. this puts me in full boost, and I don't bog much (if at all) after I let off on the brakes. It's a beautiful thing watching the RPMs just continue from 3200 on to the redline, and by 4000 the car has caught up with the engine and spinning tires. you just CAN'T do that with 2WD.

It's a little tougher with the MT since it's a lot more stressful. the AT has 3 planetary gears to distribute torque into instead of just one gear, so there's more surface area taking the strain. MT launches can be just as impressive but it takes some care and technique. I wish I knew more about MT so I could give some pointers, but I've been driving AT forever just by chance. It jsut so happens every car I've gotten has been auto for one reason or another.

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 3:25 pm
by Legacy777
Driving a MT takes a lot more finesse and balance to get things just right. I learned on a 5 spd....and an extremely picky one at that.....so I got very good at modulating throttle, clutch, & brake.

Yeah I know I drive an auto box......but my passion is the MT :D

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 1:10 am
by inzomniac
Err ya.. AWD lauch... Just make sure you do a smooth drop on the clutch... I had an incident with a bone stock neon (94-9?) model... with four people in it. I dropped the clutch a little too hard.. the car almost bloody stalled and the guy smoked me off the line in the wet. I had new tires on my car and was used to the old ones that would light up in the wet... I know, I still got beat off the line :oops: by a neon :oops: I got him once i started moving though... still it hurts man.


But I can't see a prelude giving you any hasstles, I live in a little hick town and I've scared the piss out of quite a few mustang 5.0's, and camaries (camaro's) in my time. Sure they catch up at around 100, but if you're smart you'll be off the gas by then on public roads, and you can watch them go flying by and get caught by the police.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 4:39 pm
by DLC
By "100", you mean KM, right? :D

Dave

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 7:35 pm
by kelley
my mom drives a prelude.